Charlie’s New Zoom G2Nu patches – Samples

Hi Phil,
Just had chance to listen to sound files after being without access to my usual listening equipment for over a week.
Thanks for recording and posting these files. I am pleased with the sound. I am just wondering if there is enough echo for these recordings. When playing live (ie. when not recording), does that still seem the case? They seemed about right when I play tested them for the final time before releasing the files.
Regards,
Charlie

Charlie
When playing live and recording I have since noticed that the echoes/sounds etc can be enhanced/improved by tweaking the amp's settings as you advise in your preamble.
Phil

Len
The new Zoom G2Nu is certainly acceptable as a low cost entry to obtain EFTP. It is not as good as the Magicstomp and I suspect most of the Alesis units. It is very easy to program and has plenty of room to store both EFTP patches and your own. You can also switch between different banks of patches, so in theory the amount of patch storage is infinite.
Since posting the files I have found that by tweaking the amp and patches, even Charlie’s to a degree, a very acceptable sound can be obtained. On balance I would say it is perhaps on par with the Zoom RFX 2000 but others may disagree as is their privilege.
Regards
Phil

Charlie
I fiddle with the EFTP patches on the G2Nu either by enabling the comp mode and/or the booster mode in EFX and then using their attributes to experiment with different sounds. I also fiddle with your EQ settings as well but all the time making sure the changes don’t affect the EFTP echo and other effect sounds (Tape Echo/Reverb etc) which I don’t touch.
I think it’s all down to what sound suits our individual hearing.
Phil

Charlie
I think it is all about perception as you say. To my ears the tweaks I make improve the sound for me at the time I make them. Since putting my Fender Super Champ XD back in the line up I can experiment more because the patch settings on the G2Nu are so easy to manipulate. I used to do likewise with the Magicstomp patches but almost inevitably returned to your original settings! For obvious reasons I don’t touch the Q2 settings and keep that on bypass when messing with the G2Nu patches.
Regards
Phil

Hi Phil

2 well played posts that to me sound noticeably better than the G2.

I see that you feel that the MStomp has the better echoes, I personally prefer the Zoom "sound" & have had 3 MStomps over the last couple of years & sold them all on

I think it's good that we all don't hear the same things in these old recordings we love so much

So, has the order of echo units changed any since the G2N has arrived ? or has the "N" just slotted in a fraction above the G2 ?

Cheers

Dick.

Hi Phil. first off. very well played, and good tone. to my ears, all i think it realy needs is a little more Sustain on the notes. they seem to die off too soon, maybe this is part of the echo i don't know. but all in all vey well done . Regards Lou

I've had a G2 for a long time as I use the distortions quite a lot also but I found if you;
Enable comp and dial in either 2 to 4, (Gain knob)
FS setting, (Tone knob)
80 mix'ish, (Level knob),
the cascading echoes on the Vox amp (CA) sim become a tad thicker. Tony

New Sample: Strat, Fender Super Champ XD-Clean, Zoom G2Nu (new Patch), into PC. No tweaking or anything else added.
Sorry to use "Wonderful Land" again but as most of us are totally familiar with the sound of the tune, for me it makes a good example.
www.4shared.com/audio/U_xTxY9G/Wonderful_Land2-New_G2Nu_patch.html

Hi Les,
The patches were updated for more echo in most cases, soon after I wrote the original patches. I think they are pretty good now, within the limits of what the G2Nu/G2.1Nu is capable of.
Regards,
Charlie

Hi sammeh2,
Welcome to the site. You will receive a lot of help and encouragement from many members here.
The echo is the missing link in your system. I don't know the RP90 so I have no idea if it would be suitable or not. The Zoom G2Nu would be a good choice as you already have the volume pedal. The Zoom G2.1Nu has an expression pedal built in and I would have suggested that if you didn't already have a volume pedal. I sell the echo patches for these units for £25GBP.
Meanwhile, if you already have the RP90 and it can do a single echo tap and reverb at the same time, set the delay to about 360 milliseconds, the feedback to give about 4 or 5 regenerations, set the reverb to around 2.5 to 3 seconds decay, if there is a predelay for the reverb, set that to about 100 miliseconds. Set the reverb as a background effect to the echo, not the other way round. Those settings might get you a bit nearer than you are at the moment for some of the Shadows tunes.
Regards,
Charlie

Hi
i have played Apache and Sleepwalk but if I could add a bit more reverb or echo it might sound more like the original Shadows recording. Do you have any advice with regards to adding echo or reverb to enhance the sound.
Thankyou