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Post by kipper on Feb 26, 2015 9:38:45 GMT
hi all o/t i know. but as my mcafee security is needing renewal does anyone have any suggestions for decent alternatives. i have had the mcafee 3 years came with deal on laptop. peter
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Post by philc on Feb 26, 2015 9:46:02 GMT
I've been using Norton for about 15 years, it's up for renewal in a few days, I think it's £29.
Phil
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Post by ha2he on Feb 26, 2015 10:06:15 GMT
Hi Peter & Phil,
There are quite a few free ones out there.
I have been using for years Avast as an anti virus and Comodo as a firewall both of which I have found to be very good.
Occasionally they offer (nag) upgrades but that is the only downside I have noticed. Not sure what McAffee or Norton offer on top of
anti virus or firewall but if that's all you need then I can recommend these two.
Regards,
Tim.
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Post by fenderbullits on Feb 26, 2015 10:19:01 GMT
Hi
I've used Zone Alarm for years it's free , it incorporates anti virus ,fire wall , identity and data in one package.
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Post by eltrasero on Feb 26, 2015 13:52:35 GMT
Hi Peter & Phil, There are quite a few free ones out there. I have been using for years Avast as an anti virus and Comodo as a firewall both of which I have found to be very good. Occasionally they offer (nag) upgrades but that is the only downside I have noticed. Not sure what McAffee or Norton offer on top of anti virus or firewall but if that's all you need then I can recommend these two. Regards, Tim. Trying googling your firwewall provider Tim, you may want to have a rethink.... |
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Post by kipper on Feb 26, 2015 17:53:53 GMT
thanks for all replys i did use avast before mcafee. what do you mean eltrasero about a rethink??. peter
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Post by didier on Feb 26, 2015 18:16:22 GMT
I'm using Avira and Malwarebytes ( both free versions), it works fine for me.
Didier
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Post by ta1painter on Feb 26, 2015 19:17:19 GMT
Hi, Kipper
I've been using the free version of AVG for years now, haven't had any problems with it at all.
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Post by ha2he on Feb 26, 2015 21:17:07 GMT
Hi eltrasero,
Did as you suggested.
They have bases in many countries.
Could not find anything suspicious.
If you are aware of something I should know about please let me know.
Regards,
Tim.
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Post by milko on Feb 26, 2015 22:50:02 GMT
Hi Kipper, Try Googling "Best internet security 2015". You'll turn up various sites, all with very slightly different stories to tell, but the front runners are pretty much uniform. FWIW, I use Kaspersky, and it has proven itself to be everything I could want in such a suite. So would some others, I'm sure. But you'll find the reviews revealing and informative. I did! But if you want to change from McAfee, you'll have to download the free removal tool, to get all traces of McAfee off your pc. I think I found it on the McAfee site, but I'm not sure. Whatever; Google will turn up the info you need. Hope this is helpful, Kindest regards, Milko  |
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Post by kipper on Feb 26, 2015 23:06:55 GMT
thanks to everyone for your ideas and milko i didnt know that about mcafee removal thanks, peter
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Post by rogerbayliss on Feb 26, 2015 23:49:06 GMT
Been using BitDefender Total Protection past few years seems to get the top vote in the polls. Approx £10 on the well known auction site 3 users.
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Post by somebodyelseuk on Feb 27, 2015 10:57:04 GMT
Kaspersky here. The free stuff is free for a reason. AVG, for example, did a Windows 7 Phone version that was spyware... it was an ex-Microsoft tech that discovered it. Funny how people are so paranoid when it comes to viruses, yet they'll trust a free antivirus? If free is your limit, the best one to consider is Microsoft's own free one. windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows/security-essentials-download |
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Post by philc on Feb 27, 2015 11:23:07 GMT
My feelings exactly, I am sure that "free" protects but only to a certain level, if you want that "extra" then it costs.
Phil
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Post by kipper on Feb 27, 2015 11:52:24 GMT
done some reading on Windows Defender which is already on most computers but turned off in my case by mcafee, and it looks to me that its all you need on windows 8. am i right or wrong with this. peter
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Post by philc on Feb 27, 2015 12:00:10 GMT
I don't think it's to do with what OS you have as viruses attack every OS.
Phil
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Post by Airhostess. on Feb 27, 2015 12:00:15 GMT
Hi All,
I have been using Norton for a number of years,and it came up for renewal about 2 weeks ago,I had a good check round and my top two were.......... Kaspersky for about £35, but you needed to pay more for any enhanced extra's .so I settled for Norton 360 which had everything included that I wanted about £49,but dont fall for the auto renewal it costs more to auto renew than manual renew,so far it's the best Norton I have used,just remember "there's no such thing as a free lunch" .free is good...but basic........... but pay for is much better
Best wishes
Kay
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Post by garystrat on Feb 27, 2015 12:43:16 GMT
done some reading on Windows Defender which is already on most computers but turned off in my case by mcafee, and it looks to me that its all you need on windows 8. am i right or wrong with this. peter Having either two software firewalls or anti-virus products is not a good idea, It's probably been turned off by McAfee on install because they are likely to conflict! Gary |
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Post by philc on Feb 27, 2015 13:11:13 GMT
Hi All, I have been using Norton for a number of years,and it came up for renewal about 2 weeks ago,I had a good check round and my top two were.......... Kaspersky for about £35, but you needed to pay more for any enhanced extra's .so I settled for Norton 360 which had everything included that I wanted about £49,but dont fall for the auto renewal it costs more to auto renew than manual renew,so far it's the best Norton I have used,just remember "there's no such thing as a free lunch" .free is good...but basic........... but pay for is much better Best wishes Kay Hi Kay, A few years ago my Norton came up for renual, I did this on line for arounf £49, I found PC World did the same product for around £25, I contacted Norton and they refunded the extra. The Norton Product I have now which is due for renual has pc tuneup and a few other things that I don't need as there's a tune up on my pc, so i'm opting for the basic antivirus minus these for £29. Phil |
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Post by kipper on Feb 27, 2015 14:01:45 GMT
done some reading on Windows Defender which is already on most computers but turned off in my case by mcafee, and it looks to me that its all you need on windows 8. am i right or wrong with this. peter Having either two software firewalls or anti-virus products is not a good idea, It's probably been turned off by McAfee on install because they are likely to conflict! Gary hi gary when i was reading up on defender for windows 8 and i found a piece link here www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/security/3416708/how-activate-windows-defender-in-windows-8/ about how other virus makers kicked up because defender was so much improved in windows 8, and could lose them money, so microsoft threw them a bone and gave them permison to turn it off. dont know how true this is. peter |
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Post by ha2he on Feb 27, 2015 14:15:37 GMT
Hi All, Lots being put forward here and it got me thinking how do I know if what I have is any good. I found a site that supposedly shows how to test all this stuff, of course I have no idea if it's any good or not. No doubt there will be others around but for now HERE is a link to the site. Regards, Tim. |
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Post by philc on Feb 27, 2015 14:39:35 GMT
Now we need to look for a site to test if this test works as even if your antivirus recognizes it's EICAR file, will it recognize other worse ones  Phil |
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Post by garystrat on Feb 27, 2015 17:16:58 GMT
Having either two software firewalls or anti-virus products is not a good idea, It's probably been turned off by McAfee on install because they are likely to conflict! Gary hi gary when i was reading up on defender for windows 8 and i found a piece link here www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/security/3416708/how-activate-windows-defender-in-windows-8/ about how other virus makers kicked up because defender was so much improved in windows 8, and could lose them money, so microsoft threw them a bone and gave them permison to turn it off. dont know how true this is. peter Hi Peter You may like have a look at this link, which is from a pretty well respected source in the computer security sector: blog.kaspersky.com/two-av-same-pc/Gary |
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Post by kipper on Feb 27, 2015 17:32:13 GMT
thanks gary intresting read there is a lot more to all this than i first thought. peter
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Post by ha2he on Feb 27, 2015 18:23:42 GMT
Hi All, If I were to write an anti virus program I would at least make sure it recognises that EICAR file  Anyone done that test and/or the one on the Kaspersky site? We do seem to be straying a little I think. Regards, Tim. P.S. I'm happy with what I have but then again I imagine so were Sony  |
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Post by garystrat on Feb 27, 2015 18:49:26 GMT
Hi Peter There sure is! In view of the comment on your link about MS throwing other anti-virus software a bone, I found this link rather amusing: www.pcworld.com/article/259876/antivirus_on_windows_8_looking_at_your_options.htmlScroll down to "Choosing Your Anti Virus for Windows 8" I must admit I have always looked through the rankings when choosing anti-virus software, choosing one thats consistently in the top two to three for my machine (Mac). Malware and viruses threats are changing all the time, I think if one is serious about security there needs to be a high track record for detection of those nasties that are in the "wild" (not all listed test viruses are), regular definition updates, good support and preferably suspicious behaviour analysis. I agree with Kay that I would rather pay and get something as effective as it can be, people say that they have never experienced a problem, but the question is would know if it hadn't been detected? There are other measures like not opening suspicious links on websites (most browser will now have anti spoofing measures), not opening unknown Email with attachments, before making payments on line checking the checking site certification and using an on screen key board or password manager for entering passwords (this defeats key loggers). Gary PS: in what to look for, I should have included one that doesn't significantly slow the the computer down! |
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Post by eltrasero on Feb 27, 2015 19:33:46 GMT
Hi All, Lots being put forward here and it got me thinking how do I know if what I have is any good. I found a site that supposedly shows how to test all this stuff, of course I have no idea if it's any good or not. No doubt there will be others around but for now HERE is a link to the site. Regards, Tim. Sent you a pm, did you get it? |
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Post by ha2he on Feb 28, 2015 1:12:51 GMT
eltrasero,
Thanks, got it.
Regards,
Tim.
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Post by somebodyelseuk on Feb 28, 2015 9:06:33 GMT
I don't think it's to do with what OS you have as viruses attack every OS. Phil It depends on how the virus is written. Most virus writers write viruses for Windows based OS, simply because most of the world uses a windows based OS, so Linux based systems tend to be safe(r). Windows 8 may only need the installed Defender, not sure? I know that the phone version of Windows 8 is written in such a way that any virus that may be downloaded cannot actually do anything to any files outside it's saved location. None of the reputable companies sells an antivirus for Windows 8 Phone OS. If the 'big boys' - Norton, MacAfee etc - sell a security package for it, then it's vulnerable. |
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Post by somebodyelseuk on Feb 28, 2015 9:28:11 GMT
Hi All, Lots being put forward here and it got me thinking how do I know if what I have is any good. I found a site that supposedly shows how to test all this stuff, of course I have no idea if it's any good or not. No doubt there will be others around but for now HERE is a link to the site. Regards, Tim. I used to have a link to a download site for Audacity that included a virus in the file. I used to test any potential new antivirus trial on that - if it didn't pick it up, it got dismissed. At the end of the day, the reputable name is more likely to be up to the job than the cheap/free obscure ones. One word of warning. None of them catch everything. The best scam around is to tell you your computer is vulnerable, click this link and hey presto, you're downloading a virus disguised as a test scan of some kind. |
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