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Post by scanners on May 26, 2015 0:14:12 GMT
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Post by sixchannel on May 26, 2015 13:39:52 GMT
Yes, probably.
Virtually note for note. Demonstrates adequately the lack of imagination in current Pop music arranging in their rush to released another moneymaker from an untalented but surprisingly successful so-called singer.
Whatever happened to "talent"?
Ian
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Post by bor64 on May 27, 2015 7:40:13 GMT
About 22 years ago when this "rip off" of WL intro was published, it was a sensation because of the bird voice gimmick mimi put in the song.
Sadly she destroyed her singing voice along the years.
Lack of imagination in popular or also classical music is from all ages....a few weeks ago a saw a tv special about this subject.
It's a jaw dropping topic, because even one of the biggest famous and most played guitar riffs is a rip off from a older music piece...
Cheers Rob
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Post by peterbower on May 27, 2015 8:15:37 GMT
I cannot think where I saw and heard this but I think it was on a TV ad as a jingle, well it wasn't a jingle it was Apache played by an electronic keyboard, Sad, but as sixchannel said a sign of how the music industry has gone.
Most talentless cannot sing breathy voice octave jumpers now use Auto tune.
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Post by scanners on May 27, 2015 8:32:52 GMT
yeah I'm surprised with all the law suits for copying songs, no one mentioned this? Marvin Gaye's family are suing Pharrell Williams for ripping his songs off Men at Work got sued for ripping off the flute solo in down under, WL was wriiten by Jerry Lorden I think, I'm surprised none of his family or EMI have said something?
Matthew
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Post by jay on May 27, 2015 16:26:51 GMT
....would that be Chuck B's JBG riff then.......
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Post by lw on May 27, 2015 16:36:27 GMT
Someone once defined creativity as: "the art of obscuring your sources".
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Post by garyallen on May 27, 2015 16:46:03 GMT
Its a bit late in the day moaning about wonderful land... LOL, The song itself is a sample taken from Blind Alley by The Emotions 1972...but I reckon she paid them for it. gary
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Post by localhero on May 27, 2015 18:13:59 GMT
I can't see the problem, it isn't as if she needs to copy anything to get a hit and although the notation is the same, it hardly sells the song in any way. Take it away and it wouldn't matter at all. And before anyone accuses me of being a fan, I'm not,
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Post by garyallen on May 27, 2015 18:29:43 GMT
She nearly converted me when she sung Hero, LOL gary
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Post by localhero on May 27, 2015 20:10:52 GMT
Really Gary, I didn't know you were that way.  |
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Post by tolo on May 28, 2015 7:50:41 GMT
Don't get me started about being ripped off...
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Post by brightcaster on May 28, 2015 8:26:53 GMT
I always thought that the intro of Wonderful Land was not Jerry Lordans work but added by Hank when they recorded it. Anyway, in the same manner as the well known intro of Apache was not composed by Jerry Lordan and therefor not in Bert Weedons recording of the title, the intro of Wonderful Land is not there in the recordings of Mike Oldfield and Koto. In Hanks interview at www.elsewhere.co.nz/absoluteelsewhere/5754/hank-marvin-interviewed-2013-living-in-and-out-of-the-shadows/ it reads: We met Jerry Lordan supporting us on a tour in early 1960 he asked if we were doing any more recordings, and of course after the tour we had to get in the studio. But we hadn't written anything. He had a tune he thought we might like and it was an instrumental and he played this ukulele tune to Jet Harris and me and we thought it was fantastic. So we got Bruce and Tony Meehan to have a listen and they loved it so we arranged and recorded it. That was Apache.
It's funny though, that little introduction is often sampled but was not actually part of the tune, that was just my introduction. I always used to get the job of coming up with an introductory phrase, like on Atlantis or whatever.So I thought the intros of Apache, Wonderful Land, Atlantis etc. are Hanks work. Well, it's just what I always thought. Maybe some of the experts can shed some light on it... Regards, David |
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Post by Cruachan on May 28, 2015 11:17:39 GMT
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Post by moz on May 29, 2015 13:51:18 GMT
I think that a bigger rip-off is featured in the TV ads for LV insurance that goes "Dum Diddy Dum Diddy Dwee Dwee Doh Doh". It is in fact Shindig.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 14:00:32 GMT
Velcro......now that is a rip off......
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Post by grip on Jun 1, 2015 10:36:51 GMT
Velcro......now that is a rip off...... It's that good "hook"  |
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Post by somebodyelseuk on Jun 3, 2015 7:55:41 GMT
Chances are the guy who wrote the song has never even heard of Wonderful Land, since most Yanks haven't even heard of the Shadows.
Where's the imagination in doing instrumental versions of other people's songs anyway, which is what the Shadows have been doing pretty much exclusively since 1975? How many of their hits were actually written by them? What's more, where is the imagination in copying them?
Glass houses, folks.
Have a nice day.
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