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Post by philc on Feb 4, 2016 16:04:39 GMT
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Post by sixchannel on Feb 4, 2016 16:22:34 GMT
Hi Phil What an absolute Beauty. All the patina / weathering / corrosion youd exoect to see on a 54 year old guitar. Gorgeous 62 3 ply scratchplate now a lovely faded colour and with genuine 'relicing' due to over tightened screw. Paintwork amazing - is it a respray or original? Do you know its History? Love it!!! A good find. Cheers Ian
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 4, 2016 16:38:19 GMT
Hi Phil, What a great looking original! The serial number, the slab board, the right colour, Kluson Deluxe on the tuning keys, all good. The only non original parts seem to be the volume knob and the switch tip. Are the G poles lower than the D poles? They were on all my 60s Strats. The crack in the pickguard is because the pickguard material is celluloid and shrinks. Quite normal and expected. Regards, Charlie
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Post by Steve Reynolds on Feb 4, 2016 16:59:52 GMT
Love that. I'm very jealous
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Post by garyallen on Feb 4, 2016 17:23:51 GMT
It's bootiful......you lucky @$&+!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 19:06:25 GMT
Lovely find Phil. Hope you enjoy every second of it. You can do it justice if anyone can.
Duncan.
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Post by jaybee on Feb 4, 2016 20:58:18 GMT
Hello Phil, Congratulations on your purchase - a real beauty and I'm sure it will sound as good as it looks. It almost makes me weep to remember that I sold your guitar's twin in 1967 for 35 pounds. Nobody seemed to want Strats then - they were all going for Les Pauls! Oh well, I'll just have to be content with my Fiesta Red '62 replica which I'm currently assembling. Enjoy, in the knowledge that FR Strats always sound better. Cheers, JB
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Post by philc on Feb 4, 2016 21:28:34 GMT
The guitar was owned by a guy from Scotland, the case is really beat up and is not the original, there's GLASGOW and what looks like the bands name stenciled on it but it's un readable it's about ten letters long, two words, the last four letters look like NITS?
I stripped it down before handing over any hard earned cash, all original inside bar for a new volume pot which is acceptable. The neck is stamped 2 APR 62 B, my Serial numbers info says Feb or earlier but there are variations regarding necks and serial number plates with these oldies.
The magnet are on a hight scale of 1to 5 are...E,B = 0. G.D = 5. A.E = 3.
There are two sets of knobs, the ones tone's on there now look aged, maybe too aged, the volume, is not aged and has bigger lettering.
The second set are probably the originals with all letters matching.
Phil
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Post by loujones12 on Feb 4, 2016 21:54:37 GMT
Hi Phil just looked up your new toy. below is the info. what we need now is a demo!!!! looks great. Regards Lou
Guitar Info Your guitar was made at the Fullerton Plant (Fender - Pre CBS Era), USA in the Year(s): 1962
Fender: Fullerton
The Fullerton factory opened in 1946, Fullerton California with the first major electric solid body guitar production began in 1950 with the Broadcaster (later known as the Telecaster). Sold in 1965 to CBS who in 1985 sold Fender to a group of private investors the plant was not included in that sale and was subsequently closed.
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Post by fenderplucker on Feb 5, 2016 0:54:35 GMT
Hi Phil.
What a find, I'm jealous!Those pole heights are about the same as my CS54's.
How does it sound compared to your modern instruments?
Regards,
Paul.
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Post by poppastarr on Feb 5, 2016 3:10:12 GMT
Hi Phil
Man, what coincidence. Just a few days back I had the privilege of screening all the cavities on my best mates 62 red strat. It looks exactly like yours except around 1964 my mates had three individual toggle switches put in place of the slide switch. This was common to do at least in Australia in the 60s'. Okay so it's not original but it does sound great. You can use all pickups together or in any combination. Why the screening. Well as you and Charlie would know, single coil pickups from them early days can get a bit noisy. One particular club in Canberra is a very noisy place to play, the single coils pick up everything around, including a sparrows fart. I do have a photo of my grand daughter Chloe holding the guitar which I took a few days ago but I would have to post it somehow.
Regards Val
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Post by scanners on Feb 5, 2016 7:41:07 GMT
that's cool, I read when the Shadows first used the rosewood neck strats, the UK Fender agent gave them to them to use
Matthew
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Post by philc on Feb 5, 2016 8:15:12 GMT
Hi Phil. What a find, I'm jealous!Those pole heights are about the same as my CS54's. How does it sound compared to your modern instruments? Regards, Paul. Pole heights are interesting, I have pictures posted of my JAN 63 Strats magnets,( It would have parts from 1962 being so early in the year) they are a little different to this 62 and each pickup is slightly different. The wiring is as original except for a volume pot change. The guitar sounds wonderful, it has a bit more of that nasal sound compared to my 63 and the tone from for example Shazam, with the E string slides and South of the border is there without processing and this is with 10's fitted and a plain 3rd. The body is re-finished, but to a very high standard, the previous owner payed nearly £900 for this. It had two previous top coats, Fiesta and Dakota and with a white undercoat. It is lightly aged with very light hairline paint splitting and general wear and tear. The neck is as original except for signs of extra lacquer to the back of the headstock. The back of the neck has very little lacquer and is a little grotty as can be seen. The owner was asked if he wanted the aging to match the neck but he declined...a good decision When I have time. I will remove the extra lacquer, clean the dirt from the neck and give it another light coat, it should then match the body, by the way it has a lovely C profile. The saddles and tremolo block are original but the tremolo plate is a 60's "Relic", I have the original...and have no idea why this was put on? I'll post some more pics when I strip it. Phil
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Post by George Lewis on Feb 5, 2016 8:18:43 GMT
Hi Phil, As others have said what a find. Looks just like the one I ended up swapping for a white Jazzmaster in '65 or '66 .. except mine was much pinker ! Regards George
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Post by philc on Feb 6, 2016 14:52:18 GMT
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Post by Cruachan on Feb 6, 2016 15:14:45 GMT
Hi Phil,
What an amazing find! Looks like it may have been refretted as I see no evidence of wear. Not surprising, I suppose, in view of it's great age.
Regards, Mike
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Post by philc on Feb 6, 2016 20:47:08 GMT
Yes Mike it's had a refret, I think this one has been played quite a bit.
Phil
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Post by philc on Feb 10, 2016 11:53:26 GMT
This is the band name on the case can anyone unscramble it. It looks like ******NIGHTS to me? Phil
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Post by Cruachan on Feb 10, 2016 13:08:21 GMT
Hi Phil, I loaded the image into PhotoShop Express and played around for a while. I thought the letters could be: 'MIGH__GHTS'. The proximity of the vertical stroke of the next letter after the first 'H' should narrow down the choice to B, D, E, F, H, K, L, M, N, P or I. I'm guessing that 'L' is likely to be the best fit followed by an 'I'. So that leaves the correct identification of the first letter. I think this might be an 'H' rather than an 'M': HIGHLIGHTSCame up with this possibility - could just be a red herring: www.booklive.co.uk/band/the-highlightsIf there is an association then it would suggest that this instrument has an impressive pedigree. What do you think? Regards, Mike
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Post by philc on Feb 10, 2016 13:37:37 GMT
Mike, MIGH_GHTS or HIGHLIGHTS doesn't work because the G is not right for the 3rd letter...but keep at it Phil
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Post by Cruachan on Feb 10, 2016 16:06:18 GMT
Hi Phil, You appear to have moved the 'G' slightly to the right and it now overlaps the left vertical stroke of the 'H' letter. Looking at the original image the overall shape of this presumptive 'G' letter is similar to the letter further along - there are several features common to both. The lettering seems to have been applied with a stencil or perhaps we are seeing patterns left by glue used to apply the letters with gaps above and below on what, I remain convinced, are 'G's and also the 'S' at the end. I'm sticking to my conclusions meantime Regards, Mike
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Post by philc on Feb 10, 2016 16:49:51 GMT
Mike, there looks like four letters before the dark vertical line left of centre,this is based on the width of the HTS, the letters are all downward strokes except for the forth which is just left of this line, this could be a letter with rounded top and bottom but rather squashed
G doesn't work with any of the first three.
Phil
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Post by johnsmith on Feb 10, 2016 19:43:03 GMT
Hi Phil, Maybe it's The Barron Knights! LOL! Regards, John.
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Post by Cruachan on Feb 10, 2016 19:48:44 GMT
Hi Phil,
He,he! Okay, I've measured the space taken up by HTS and this matches the space occupied by G, H and (what I am assuming to be) L. That leaves only sufficient room for an I between an 'L' and the second (what I am convinced is a) 'G'. The letter immediately to the left of the first 'G' can only be an 'I' as there ain't no room for anything wider in the alphabet.
That leaves the identity of that first letter. I think we have to consider how these letters were created - were they mounted as individual letters or painted on using a stencil? Back in the 60's and 70's how would it have been done - manually or by using a preformed stencil with accurate letter spacing? If we can accept that the letter to the left of the first 'G' (assuming it is a 'G' and not a 'C') then there can't be many options left for that first letter. The imprint looks like it might be an 'M' but I'm not convinced. If I am indeed correct and the rest spells out _IGHLIGHTS then the only candidate that makes any sense would be another 'H' although, admittedly the imprint doesn't match the 'H' in the second half. That could be down simply to human inconsistency when the letters were mounted or, more likely stencilled. As I have said, the presumptive 'G's and the 'S' makes me lean towards believing a stencil was used.
Isn't this intriguing?
Regards, Mike
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Post by sixchannel on Feb 10, 2016 21:00:26 GMT
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Post by Cruachan on Feb 10, 2016 22:44:14 GMT
Hi Ian, Fascinating read. I think there's a very good chance you may have struck gold! I bet Phil's new guitar could tell a few stories Dare I say, it all seems to fit. Regards, Mike
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Post by philc on Feb 10, 2016 23:42:34 GMT
Mike, it's definitely a stencil, what I didn't show was the word below which is stenciled GLASGOW and very clear.
My band played a few gigs with the Baron Knights in 1966....It's not them either
Phil
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Post by rjanuarsa on Feb 11, 2016 2:12:06 GMT
Awesome!!!!!
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Post by SPIKE on Feb 11, 2016 4:14:27 GMT
Hi Phil
Looks very nice!!
Looking forward to hearing what it sounds like!!
S.
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Post by philc on Feb 11, 2016 9:00:11 GMT
Here's the full naming.
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