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Post by mickhunt on Nov 5, 2018 17:18:33 GMT
Has anyone tried the Vox AV series The AC settings are supposed to be modelled after a Vox with the EF 86 valve in
Mick
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Post by Charlie Hall on Nov 5, 2018 17:57:54 GMT
Hi Mick, I tried the AC10 in PMT in Cambridge about 2 years ago. I thought it was a good sounding amp but very bright. I think it could work OK with the treble control set low for use with the preamp. I don't know about the AV amps. Regards, Charlie
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Post by mickhunt on Nov 6, 2018 21:19:31 GMT
So I would turn both the treble and bass right down and use the preamp tone. Could I use the new unit straight into my zoom R8 recorder with the hall and Collins
Mick
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Post by Charlie Hall on Nov 6, 2018 21:48:18 GMT
Hi Mick, You would probably turn the treble right down, and the bass somewhere between fairly low and right down, and use the preamp tone. The unit will work very well for direct recording. Regards, Charlie
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Post by carl c on Nov 7, 2018 9:06:19 GMT
Hi Charlie, You mentioned that the normal channel on a Vox amp would be the favoured flattest response for the "EF86 Project" I have just bought the AC15CH Head and was wondering If the Tone Cut would need, also to be in a set position when using the "EF86 Project" preamp unit. Regards Carl.
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Post by mickhunt on Nov 7, 2018 9:27:41 GMT
So guitar ef86 H&C zoomR8 The zoom R8 has effects built in so I could add any reverb If needed it has a compressor I could use before the final Master track Looking foreword to its completion charlie.
Mick
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Post by Charlie Hall on Nov 7, 2018 14:22:07 GMT
Hi Carl,
If the normal channel of the AC15CH has a similar flat response then the cut control of that amp would be set for maximum treble when used with the new pedal. The tone control of the selected channel on the pedal would be used instead for tone control.
Hi Mick,
I would connect from the guitar to the H & C to the EF86 emulator pedal to the Zoom R8.
Regards, Charlie
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Post by carl c on Nov 7, 2018 14:44:45 GMT
Hi Charlie, Thanks for your reply Regards Carl.
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Post by mickhunt on Nov 12, 2018 8:33:01 GMT
Thanks charlie
Mick
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Post by gruntfuttock on Dec 23, 2018 6:55:04 GMT
Hi Charlie. Any news re the progress of the EF86 project? (He asked timidly) Would this pedal be used with for example the Tech 21 Liverpool or an EQ pedal? Or would it be the only other pedal used with HCSE? Many thanks Dave
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 23, 2018 11:06:00 GMT
Hi Dave, Sorry, no more to report at this time other than I am told there are a couple of items still to cost. I am as disappointed as anyone that we have not got this project off the ground sooner. The unit would be used instead of another amp modeller such as the Tech 21 units but some might find additional EQ of some use. Regards, Charlie
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Post by gruntfuttock on Dec 23, 2018 15:07:07 GMT
Thanks for your reply Charlie. I’m really looking forward to the release of your EF86 pedal! Enjoy your Christmas break! Dave
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Post by stevec on Dec 28, 2018 13:57:16 GMT
Hi Charlie could you please add me the list
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 29, 2018 15:03:14 GMT
Hi Charlie could you please add me the list Hi stevec, Thank you, I have added you to the list. Regards, Charlie
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Post by hanky on Jan 15, 2019 18:48:35 GMT
Any News?
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Post by Charlie Hall on Jan 15, 2019 19:09:49 GMT
Thanks, but sorry to say there is not much more news at this time. I have suggested a slight change to the case shape to allow the main board and its components a little more clearance from the top of the case. Stephen at the factory will be concentrating for the next week or two on trying to fix the Hall & Collins display issue that a few owners are experiencing. Regards, Charlie
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Post by burns338 on Feb 7, 2019 22:56:17 GMT
Hi Charlie, This is very exciting! Please add me to the list for one of the units. Col.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 7, 2019 23:30:02 GMT
Hi Col, Thank you, I have added you to the list. I hope to do some demo recordings over the next few weeks. Regards, Charlie
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Post by hanky on Feb 21, 2019 12:59:14 GMT
Hi charlie looking forward to the sound samples, Do we have any idea of cost yet?
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 21, 2019 14:35:13 GMT
Hi charlie looking forward to the sound samples, Do we have any idea of cost yet? I am planning to start producing some instrumental sound demos in the next few days. As for costs, we do have a better idea now. The unit itself will probably sell for around £145, but it will require its own power supply which will add about £25 to that. While this is more than I was hoping to be able to limit the selling price to, I believe there is nothing else quite like it on the market (emulating 2 different EF86 preamps, emulating the EL84 power amp, and emulating the speaker sound typically heard from those amps). I have produced a recording of a cover version of Status Quo's Down Down. This features 3 tracks of my Fender Telecaster (basically triple tracked) and 1 track of my Vintage VSA535 (335 copy). These 4 tracks were recorded in each case with the guitar connected directly to the pedal input, the early EF86 channel was selected (which emulates the AC15 from 1959 as used on Apache) and the volume and tone controls were set to maximum, the speaker emulation was switched on, and the output connected directly to the computer sound card's line input. Further EQ in the recording software was applied to each guitar track, about 3dB boost at 3KHz, and about 3dB boost at about 200Hz. I hope you like it. app.box.com/s/c6zb1lnsf3e4hzquis0lld16s28miyvqRegards, Charlie
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Post by rogerbayliss on Feb 21, 2019 20:22:38 GMT
Sounds like a Vox Charlie listening to Rick Parfits rhythm notably. Proof of The Shadows sound of course in due course. Look forward to hearing more soon.
What power requirement does pedal have ?
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 21, 2019 20:40:56 GMT
Hi Roger, Thanks, pleased to know you can hear the Vox sound in there! I was pleased with the bloom at 2:12 to 2:26, which is something I have heard from Vox amps in a live band setting. The power supply will almost certainly be the same as the Hall & Collins one. We did do a test using a single power supply to run both the H & C and the new pedal at the same time but it resulted in a bad hum because the power supply puts out AC voltage (which both pedals must have). Regards, Charlie
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Post by asimmd on Feb 22, 2019 9:54:54 GMT
Hi Charlie Excellent track and yes it definately sounds like a Vox.
It would be nice to hear a couple of tracks using a Strat perhaps a Shads tune and a non Sheads tune just for comparison.
Looking forward to some pictures of the unit,if it's as professional as the Signature echo it will be outstanding.
Alan
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Post by hanky on Feb 22, 2019 10:51:43 GMT
Looking forward to the samples, although the quo sounded good I think I would better appreciate what the unit does for the shadows sound as i tend to listen to them every day.
So my Current config to get in the Shadows ballpark is a Hall and Collins Echo a Gemini 3 and an Actone pedal.
What would my Pedalboard look like with your unit? And do you have any pictures of the pedal?
Really exciting times
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 22, 2019 11:37:50 GMT
Hi Alan, Thanks for your kind comments. I will be recording some demos of Shads tunes with my other Strat which is strung with 12s. We don't have a finished casing yet so it will be some while before we can do pics. The planned colour is the same burgundy as used on the H & C.
Hi hanky, Thanks for your enthusiastic comments. I thought I would post the Quo track to see if there could be interest for the unit for players of other styles that like Vox amps. I believe the EF86 sound is well liked in the US, so it would be very good for everyone if interest in the unit can be got from there. I will be doing some Shadows tunes as soon as I can. You shouldn't need the Gemini III if you have the "EF86" pedal, which should look very good on your board as it is planned to be the same burgundy colour as the H & C. We can do pics after we have a casing with artwork made. Regards, Charlie
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Post by asimmd on Feb 22, 2019 16:38:27 GMT
Hi Charlie Thanks for the reply. It would look good on a pedalboard if the EF86 case was in the same style as the Signature echo.
Actually they would look good anywhere.
Just a thought.😉👍
Alan
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 22, 2019 18:50:44 GMT
Hi Alan, Agreed, but the circuit board and switches and pots are at 2 different heights so daughter boards will have to be made for the pots. Unfortunately because of this we can't have the recessed control panel like the H & C as the case would have to be much higher to fit it all in. Even without considering that, we have had some trouble deciding the best way to design the case. Regards, Charlie
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Post by asimmd on Feb 24, 2019 10:56:37 GMT
Thanks Charlie hopefully it wont be too long before the demo's are done then there will be a lot more excitement for the project.
Alan
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Post by bor64 on Feb 25, 2019 12:24:03 GMT
Great it's about to gonna happen!! Can't wait to hear the shad demo's!! I'm curious what will happen, with customs-cost and VAT after(dear I say)Brexit Cheers Rob
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Post by gazongkapede on Feb 25, 2019 22:38:28 GMT
Anticipation is growing fast ..... The demo certainly has that hot, edgy, focussed Circuit 2 sound happening in spades, to my ears. It's not subtle is it! The early Hank VOX sound had real attitude and excitement (almost bordering on 'anarchy'), and I can hear those attributes here (as did Bruce's Jazzmaster electric work). Looking forward to further news - particularly on the (punchy but singing) Circuit 3 tones in due course.
Going well, Charlie!
Regards, Dick B.
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