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Post by ubique on Mar 21, 2019 9:34:48 GMT
Hi All Is anyone aware if the BT is available. I read somewhere that it is going to be sold by Leo's Den but have been unable to find it anywhere. www.youtube.com/watch?v=paYGYTvsoAg. Cheers. Neil |
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Post by mikeab on Mar 21, 2019 10:12:31 GMT
Geoff has put out some amazing tracks - some of which show what our dear old Mr Marvin could be doing with dramatic lesser known covers. So Geoff how about BT's for 'Mohicans', Copperhead' etc - worth paying for!!
Mike
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Post by Tone on Mar 21, 2019 11:49:57 GMT
I'm not usually a fan of new takes on old classics but this one is excellent. The backing is fresh but the feel and arrangement of the lead guitar stays pretty well faithful to the original. What a great Strat sound and it's not even a Strat! I think it's a G&L Legacy.
Tony
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Post by streetboy on Mar 21, 2019 19:44:52 GMT
Hi All Is anyone aware if the BT is available. I read somewhere that it is going to be sold by Leo's Den but have been unable to find it anywhere. www.youtube.com/watch?v=paYGYTvsoAg. Cheers. Neil Hi Neil, It's one of the tracks found on the UB Hank Vol. 1 CD sold by Leo's Den. rgds Soren |
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Post by sixchannel on Mar 21, 2019 20:09:17 GMT
Hi All Is anyone aware if the BT is available. I read somewhere that it is going to be sold by Leo's Den but have been unable to find it anywhere. www.youtube.com/watch?v=paYGYTvsoAg. Cheers. Neil Hi Neil, It's one of the tracks found on the UB Hank Vol. 1 CD sold by Leo's Den. rgds Soren No, its not Soren. UBH1 track is quite different and very much in keeping with the original. Its POSSIBLY a Peter Korving BT, and if it is, its at Leos Den - look for Volume 8. . Ian |
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Post by gibbo3272 on Mar 22, 2019 3:42:30 GMT
Hello all looking at the info on the video the BT is from John Stallard's (CubbyHoleStudio) excellent orchestral backing track.
Geoff
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Post by streetboy on Mar 22, 2019 8:09:40 GMT
Hi Neil, It's one of the tracks found on the UB Hank Vol. 1 CD sold by Leo's Den. rgds Soren No, its not Soren. UBH1 track is quite different and very much in keeping with the original. Its POSSIBLY a Peter Korving BT, and if it is, its at Leos Den - look for Volume 8. . Ian Hi Ian, I stand corrected - I did not listen to the youtube version. I just assumed something that obviously was not correct - my mistake :-( rgds Soren |
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Post by Ed Cornish on Mar 22, 2019 13:58:57 GMT
What a great Strat sound and it's not even a Strat! I think it's a G&L Legacy. Tony[/quote] lol Tony! You must surely know that G&L = George Fullerton and Leo Fender  Ed |
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Post by Tone on Mar 22, 2019 15:25:13 GMT
Hi Ed
Yes, I do know that. My comment was made somewhat tongue in cheek!
Tony
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Apache BT
Mar 22, 2019 16:18:12 GMT
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Post by garyallen on Mar 22, 2019 16:18:12 GMT
I'm surprised nobody's commented on the tempo,it's very slow.
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Post by sixchannel on Mar 22, 2019 20:30:50 GMT
I'm surprised nobody's commented on the tempo,it's very slow. Quite so, Gary. But I like the Freshness of it and the "punch" so I'd give it a bit of a Gee-Up in my DAW if I had it. But thats just me. |
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Post by mikeab on Mar 22, 2019 22:34:39 GMT
I hope people aren't focussing just on Geoff's 'Apache' !?
If so try these from him :-
Copperhead Road
Last Of The Mohicans
When You Walk In The Room
Rip It Up
Song Of The Lonely Mountain
The Story
'Til The Rivers Run Dry
etc etc
Fantastic stuff for us instrumentally starved old timers!
Mike
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Post by lw on Mar 23, 2019 2:04:28 GMT
I agree with 6CH, I love the extra sounds and the mix and fullness of the sound in this BT, and the guitar is perfect ... but it just drags soooo slow to me.
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Post by sixchannel on Mar 23, 2019 10:36:16 GMT
But we're still no nearer finding the BT source, so I've posted a comment on his YT.
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Post by strat21 on Mar 24, 2019 21:54:30 GMT
Hi ,it was created by a man called John Stallard,and he has a web site for his studio ,Cubby Hole Studios.He told me that there was going to be an arrangement where the track was sold by Leos Den .As an aside,he was recording another track with the same player,which is on the cubby hole site,an arrangement of a Justin Hayward track.If you come to Warwick Shadows Club,John is a member there,and John does preview some of his projects on there site,Strat21 Geg Palmer
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Post by sixchannel on Mar 25, 2019 12:37:57 GMT
Hi ,it was created by a man called John Stallard,and he has a web site for his studio ,Cubby Hole Studios.He told me that there was going to be an arrangement where the track was sold by Leos Den .As an aside,he was recording another track with the same player,which is on the cubby hole site,an arrangement of a Justin Hayward track.If you come to Warwick Shadows Club,John is a member there,and John does preview some of his projects on there site,Strat21 Geg Palmer Hi Geg Hope you are keeping well. Thanks for the info. Hadnt thought of John. Very best regards Ian |
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Post by strat21 on Mar 25, 2019 18:01:11 GMT
Hi Ian,and the very best Regards To you to,I have missed you at Warwick,can we expect you anytime soon,Regards Geg Strat 21 PS,I am going to Cubby Hole studio tomorrow,so if there is any news on an outlet for "The Orchestrated Apache" I will endeavour to let you know Geg
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Post by lw on Mar 26, 2019 7:54:04 GMT
By the way - there is a free utility I have used which does a very good job of changing the tempo of an audio file without changing the pitch. It is called "TempoChanger" and you can download it from the website at: audiotrimmer.com I hope it's okay that I post this link, but maybe others might also find this useful, and it is free. I have other BTs which I thought were just too slow for my taste, and using this utility I could speed them up to a more lively and suitable tempo, and they still stayed exactly in tune - I think it's some kind of magic.
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Post by sixchannel on Mar 26, 2019 8:40:12 GMT
By the way - there is a free utility I have used which does a very good job of changing the tempo of an audio file without changing the pitch. It is called "TempoChanger" and you can download it from the website at: audiotrimmer.com I hope it's okay that I post this link, but maybe others might also find this useful, and it is free. I have other BTs which I thought were just too slow for my taste, and using this utility I could speed them up to a more lively and suitable tempo, and they still stayed exactly in tune - I think it's some kind of magic. Magic, indeed. I kept the ancient Adobe Audition 1.5 on my old XP drive when I went up to Win7 and that does a great job. But I'll check that Tempochanger out for my Win7. Thanks for the Heads Up. Ian |
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Post by jontie on Apr 5, 2019 10:10:51 GMT
Geoffs version of 'Whiter shade of Pale' is stunning, and the BT is brilliant. Does anyone know if this is available?
Regards
John
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Post by oldrenders on Apr 5, 2019 16:12:23 GMT
Re: changing tempo and key of BTs
Wort mentioning that the free/shareware program Audacity has these facilities built in. You can alter the tempo without changing the key, and also alter the key of a BT without changing the tempo. Really useful facilities.
Simply import your BT into Audacity, and save your working copy with a new name to protect your original BT.
Select (shade) your new track and select "effects" in Audacity's menu. There are many effects to choose from including tempo change and key change (transpose).
Make your choice and review the results. If you are happy, save the new audacity file. You can then "export audio" to your preferred file format for BT use.
Hope this is of some use. Audacity has some cool facilities that repay a bit of study, and what'd more, it's free.
Regards
Geoff
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Post by rogerdee on Apr 5, 2019 18:36:25 GMT
I do find that if you change the tempo in Audacity it does degrade the track quite a bit. I have started using 'Conversion-tool.com' for tempo or pitch change which I find so much better. I have put the link below. regards Roger www.conversion-tool.com/pitch/ |
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Post by George Lewis on Apr 6, 2019 1:56:37 GMT
I do find that if you change the tempo in Audacity it does degrade the track quite a bit. I have started using 'Conversion-tool.com' for tempo or pitch change which I find so much better. I have put the link below. regards Roger www.conversion-tool.com/pitch/Hi Roger, I use Audacity fairly often to change tempo both for sections of a track and full tracks and have never found any noticeable change in quality. Changing key more than a couple of semi tones however can degrade the quality markedly depending on the original but is usually OK for small changes. Audacity has two built-in effects for changing both tempo and pitch but the best one is the "sliding stretch" which according to Audacity uses a better algorithm than the stand alone Change tempo effect. It also allows you to vary the starting and ending tempo, for example for a section that slows down, then resumes at normal tempo. manual.audacityteam.org/man/sliding_stretch.htmlAs with all audio editing it depends on the quality of the original and if you are changing an existing MP3 don't forget that the MP3 will be converted to floating point Wav format for the editing then re-transcoded if saved back to an MP3, each time degrading the quality a little more. Regards George |
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Post by rogerdee on Apr 6, 2019 11:39:04 GMT
Hi George,
Thanks for that.
I must admit that I have been quite 'Heavy handed' when trying to use Audacity for either tempo or pitch changes so have assumed that it couldnt do it to an acceptable standard.
I will revisit Audacity and try your suggested way.
Thank you for the advice.
kind regards
Roger
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