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Post by scanners on Jun 9, 2019 7:23:09 GMT
Wondering if Hank ever owned a sunburst Strat? I remember watching a Cliff Richard movie and he was playing one not sure if it was his of he just used it in the movie? I know he had a black one in the 7Os I think his son Ben owns it now
Matthew
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Post by shawbridge on Jun 9, 2019 7:39:07 GMT
Hi,
Never seen him play a sunburst but there are photos of him using a white Strat in the studio, various photos of him with that guitar and also one were he is using the white Strat in a live performance.
There is one particular photo that shows Hank with white Strat in the studio and his wrist bandaged up but never seen him with a Sunburst.
Cheers.
Pete
Ps saw Hank in Blackpool in the 80s Change of Address tour, Black Strat and Bruce with white Strat.
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Post by scanners on Jun 9, 2019 13:54:05 GMT
I believe his original strat Cliff painted it white and used it, could have been that? Bruce got it and had repainted to fiesta red
Matthew
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Post by nessmonst on Jun 9, 2019 14:29:42 GMT
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Post by alanmckillop on Jun 9, 2019 15:55:00 GMT
Hank did own a sunburst strat which he bought from Tony Hicks of The Hollies and played during the 80’s. I also seem to recall that he also played a sunburst strat around the Eurovision time, when appearing on the Lulu show, but not sure if he owned or borrowed it.
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Post by gusstrat on Jun 9, 2019 21:49:42 GMT
I had a pic of Hank standing with his guitar collection and I’m sure there is a sunburst strat there.
Would have to try and find it.
Regards, Garry.
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Post by scanners on Jun 10, 2019 0:07:36 GMT
I wish I could remember the movie I saw it in, one of those Saturday afternoons you turn on TV it’s either a Cliff Richard or Elvis movie on haha
Matthew
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Post by fenderplucker on Jun 10, 2019 1:28:29 GMT
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Post by gusstrat on Jun 10, 2019 9:59:57 GMT
Hi Paul,
Thank you for posting the guitars Hank has, I had the same photo of him with the collection.
Regards, Garry.
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Post by alanmckillop on Jun 10, 2019 17:10:20 GMT
Check out Cool, Clear Air on YouTube from the Lulu Show and my memory was not wrong, Hank is playing a sunburst strat and not a black one, as stated on the TVS website. youtu.be/sRtSl9lLaRI |
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Post by fenderplucker on Jun 11, 2019 4:06:41 GMT
Hi Allan,
Great video and I will correct the TVS site accordingly. It raises the question of when did Hank get the ex Tony Hicks sunburst Strat?
Regards,
Paul.
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Post by alanmckillop on Jun 11, 2019 7:40:35 GMT
A good question Paul, the guitar in both the video and your site pic, look similar, particularly the redish tint. I’ve got better quality footage of the Lulu show on dvd, so I’ll check it out further.
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Post by patrice on Jun 11, 2019 8:16:42 GMT
Hi all,
I would just want to add that the ex Tony Hicks 57 Stratocaster, that Hank bought and played (sometimes) during 20 years, is now the property of a french collector that I know very well...
Before that ! Hank showed me (in private) his 57 Strat a couple years later (83 /84 ?) that he bought (!) my 58 Fiesta Red in December 80 in Paris...
For the history:
The ex Tony Hicks 57 Strat is a TWO tone Sunburst (without red) and his serial number is # -22102
For sure, Hank used it between 1980 and 2002.
Now:
When you take a look to the video with John Farrar, the Strat that Hank plays is a « 70's" Fender guitar with a 3 tone Sunburst and large headstock...
Best regards from Paris
Patrice
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Post by fenderplucker on Jun 11, 2019 10:05:28 GMT
Well spotted Patrice, the mystery deepens!
Paul.
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Post by sixchannel on Jun 11, 2019 12:26:59 GMT
Not to throw a spanner into the works but - what was the Strat that Hank bought from Barratts of Manchester in the 60s when The Shads were playing across the road at the Palace Theatre? I seem to recall a photo in the now defunct ManchesterBeat but was it a sunburst?
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Post by bor64 on Jun 11, 2019 16:46:27 GMT
Hank's Barratts strat was bought in 1971, it was a 1970 model with a solid one piece maple neck and four bolts(pre bullet 3 bolts). That strat was whitish some say blonde and later black of course... The lulu strat was a later model and as I understand on loan, because the black strat was being customized at that time. Patrice, your well-known collector friend (AlF?)bought the strat from the geezers of "The High court of Rock and Roll" I presume? Because I saw tat strat on their website...for 28000 GBP if I remember correctly  Hopefully the strat is in full working order now? Because Hank told me he had problems with 2 pu's... Cheers Rob |
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Post by fenderplucker on Jun 12, 2019 11:48:38 GMT
Hi Rob,
Hank had a quick play with the '58 Strat during the recording of "HANK" but decided not to use it. I had to shim the neck to get an acceptable action for him, but as I recall all pickups were OK.
Paul.
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Post by brightcaster on Jun 12, 2019 13:32:15 GMT
BTW: There's another minor correction needed on the TVS list of Hank's guitars. The burns marvin used on the 2004/2005 final tour was a 40th anniversary model not a 50th! This is mixed up from time to time (ask google) as it is unusual to celebrate a 40th anniversary. But the original marvin was intruduced in 1964 and 40 years later in 2004 the anniversary model came along....
Regards, David
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Post by fenderplucker on Jun 13, 2019 1:05:56 GMT
Many thanks David, all feedback is much appreciated, I'll make the correction.
Paul.
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Post by scanners on Jun 13, 2019 4:38:24 GMT
You might have to ask the man himself Paul, we are all confused haha Yeah, the large head stock came in 69 I think, Jimi Hendrix one had one , this movie I saw it in was early to mid 60s I’d say
Matthew
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Post by bor64 on Jun 13, 2019 7:09:05 GMT
Paul, In my comment to Patrice, I was revering to the ex Tony Hicks 57 two-tone sunburst strat of Hank, which is the subject of this thread and the one that he sold! Not the 58 red he still has Matthew, the big headstock birth year is 65/66 so all strats after that till 82 had those... The Barratt strat you revering to and asked if it was a sunburst,is a strat made in the year 1970, because between 60 and the end of 69 (yes also Jimi strats)when it was a maple neck, it had a maple cap instead of a rosewood board. The big giveaway it is a 1970 strat is the neck of Hanks strat has a 1 piece solid maple neck large font "with synchronized tremelo" and four bolts and no bullet trustrod on the headstock that came in 71 along with the 3 bolt fixation of the neck. Furthermore the strat was bought in 1971... Asking Hank about his guitars of that long ago.... be free to believe me or not...I asked Hank on many occasions and 9 times out of 10 I had to tell him the details! When we talked about the 84 reunited gigs with Cliff he mixed up the details about the 12 string Double Six, he was convinced he used the red one...I told him, nope you used the Greenburst...the red one is the one with the bass-strings... His reaction was, really??? Two others in the room confirmed to him it was the green one! Details about the black strat are even mistier.... Such details doesn't seems to be important for him for good reasons! When somebody asked me, what colour of tool did I used when I was on the job at some week 30 years ago....one with a black or brown handle because that two I have in my collection...beats me! Bruce is nearly the same...when he played my black 1970 maple neck(yes exactly the same as the one of Hank)and compliment me about the set up....I ask him, does it looks familiar? He looked at me right in the eyes and asked why? I said...well same guitar was at your left-hand on stage for about a decade... His reaction was... really? ...I had a white one, did he used that black one long? So you see, details about the lads working tools, you have to be on this site! Cheers Rob |
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Post by scanners on Jun 13, 2019 7:52:49 GMT
When did maple fret boards on strats disappear? I thought it was in 1960 but Hendrix had one. I read Eric Clapton preferred maple fret boards but you couldn’t get them new in the 70s , he bought his first couple of strats from the second hand shop
Matthew
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Post by bor64 on Jun 13, 2019 8:23:26 GMT
Mathew,
As a standard for regular production the switch was second half 59, so from that on you could only order a maple neck and pay extra for that and it was just a standard neck but instead of a rosewood cap a maple cap no solid 1 piece. They are not common but there are samples like the ones Jimi and Richie used in second half of the 60's... Those maple caps are of course a extreme rarity in second-hand stores.
In begin 1970 the one piece maple neck was re- listed.
That Clapton story about how he was looking en buying strats in a Nashville usa shop called So-Bud is so common knowledge and reprinted in multiple magazines...funny enough sometimes completely retold wrong...
Everybody could buy a new 1 piece maple neck strat in the year 1970 and onwards in the USA, so when you read he couldn't, that's BS, just they let out the fact, he didn't want a new one...because he wasn't happy with the workmanship at CBS Fender.
He just wanted a old one...
Cheers Rob
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Post by fenderplucker on Jun 13, 2019 8:30:24 GMT
Rob,
I have the same experience as you regarding Hank's memory of guitars, amps, echo units, etc., which, as you say, is completely understandable especially since it was so long ago and so much was going on at the time. That is why questions about what strings were used etc. are even more unlikely to be productive.
Paul.
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Post by patrice on Jun 13, 2019 11:39:01 GMT
Rob The French guitar collector who bought this STRAT 57 ex Hollies, is not ALF (Alain la France) that I know very well too ! (Joke : ALF told me that he had not the money enough to buy it !) And I promised to the actual owner (who wishes to remain anonymous) not to disclose his name… About this 57 2 tone Sunburst Strat we can see Hank played with it (in 83 and certainly in Honey Hill studios) in this youtube video and between 35 sec and one minute www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNHYx24AR1Yand after 1 minute, Hank played his (my) 58 Fiesta Red… About now the Hank’s Black Strat with a large headstock and fitted with a maple neck. I’m totally agreed with you Rob. This kind of model is (very !) RARE (and certainly rarest that a maple board !) because of its « massive » (one peace like in the 50’s) maple neck screwed on the body by (yet) four screws… During the 20 years of Guitar Express Vintage Guitars in Paris, I sold only ONE Strat 1970 with a « like this » one piece maple neck 4 bolts, compare to the three ! Stratocaster from the end 60’s fitted with a maple cap on a maple neck… (4 bolts too !) So, and as you say Rob, a Hank’s (Black) Stratocaster certainly made by Fender in 1970. Because, before this date (1970) the Stratocaster fitted with a « maple neck » (like the Jimmy Hendrix White Strat) were always made with a maple cap (glued) on a maple neck… (Never in one piece) Then and after 1971, if the neck on a Stratocaster is again made in one piece maple, appears in the same time, the « bullet truss rod » and the « tilt neck » but ALSO with a neck always screwed on the body by three bolts… So no doubt, with these details, to recognize one of them. Now: In the video : youtu.be/sRtSl9lLaRI, if you take a look on the Hank’s Sunburts Strat at 2’10 you can see the « bullet truss rod » just after the nut. That’s mean that this Strat Sunburst is a (brand ) new ! model made in 1973… And we can be sure that this Strat Sunburst is an other guitar than the Black Strat that Hank will played at the same time ? or a little beat later. In 1980 December in Paris Mogador theater Hank played this (pick ups modified) Black Strat on stage. Back stage I saw this Strat putted on a stand and I remember (before having it in hands) having say to Hank: « Do you know if your Strat is a 4 bolts ? » And Hank to answer: I don’t know I never return it ! It’s Hank ! But we love him for that… Paul If you have to meet hank in a near future please say hello to him for me... Thank you ! Regards Patrice (and excuse me for my english mistakes... I don't practice enough to day !) |
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Post by bor64 on Jun 13, 2019 14:29:34 GMT
Patrice, SWAMBO prevented me with one look, to buy that 57 strat....she said, "Don't you dare, you've already the same brown guitar". ALF has about 400 guitars isn't it? So no worries he's not without some strings Don't worry about your writing...it's better then mine Hanks humour is indeed special and quick, when he's private and relaxed, when I was around him, he joked every-time all the time ... I handled few of Hanks guitars and he's always helpful and willing to give advice or a story at hand and genuine interested in my story. One time in Amsterdam(2005 first night in his dressing room). I asked him if he wanted to shake things up, his eyes lit up. Shall I bring my 1970 black strat tomorrow, then you can play it on stage ... that will be a madhouse! Hank answer, that is really a nice idea, does your strat have kinman pu's and Sperzels? Sorry Hank it doesn't .... to bad he said, I would love to see all the train spotters their faces ... Saying that, Bruce only does that when he's convinced your a trustful person...and he's also a diamond geezer. Brian is also helpful and friendly when he knows you! Cheers Rob |
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