Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2010 5:17:40 GMT
Hi all.
Charlie has put up a great thread about simple music theory and chords. I have added this thread as a sister to it. It all sounds much better if your Guitar is "In TUNE".
The following was a revelation to me however I now accept it as being correct.
As a member of Guitar Tricks I watched a tutorial by Anders Mouridsen about simple guitar tuning and setting up of intonations. This tutorial shows you that if everything where exactly in tune you could only play in one key. To play in all 12 keys certain notes have to be slightly but evenly out of tune therefore nothing is exactly in tune not even a piano. They use Equal Temperament tuning not Exact or Just tuning.
On a guitar to tune using the harmonics on the 5th and 7th frets seems to put the whole lot out which is why when I tuned like that I spent hours trying to fine tune certain chords to get them to sound right only to find that another chord sounded somehow wrong.
The only notes that should be exactly in tune are Octaves and Unison, everything else needs to be very slightly out. the reason for this is that that Guitar Frets are set apart for Equal Temperament Tuning NOT Exact or (just) Tuning. Piano keys are tuned to equal temperament.
Here is a link that goes into detail on the subject, to me it makes sense and solves the headaches that at times have driven me nuts trying to fine tune when it was as good as it could be in the first place.
hubpages.com/hub/Equal-Temperament-Guitar-Tuning
The idea seems to be to have your guitar intonations properly set up. Tune the strings open or at the 12th fret using a good tuner and then trust that it is in tune. Don't then tweak individual chords to try to get them to sound perfect. Remember equal temperament. Certain intervals are meant to be be slightly sharp or flat but evenly so that our ears accept it. Read the tutorial in the link.
I hope that this helps. It did me.
Feel free to add to this thread.
All the best
George.
Charlie has put up a great thread about simple music theory and chords. I have added this thread as a sister to it. It all sounds much better if your Guitar is "In TUNE".
The following was a revelation to me however I now accept it as being correct.
As a member of Guitar Tricks I watched a tutorial by Anders Mouridsen about simple guitar tuning and setting up of intonations. This tutorial shows you that if everything where exactly in tune you could only play in one key. To play in all 12 keys certain notes have to be slightly but evenly out of tune therefore nothing is exactly in tune not even a piano. They use Equal Temperament tuning not Exact or Just tuning.
On a guitar to tune using the harmonics on the 5th and 7th frets seems to put the whole lot out which is why when I tuned like that I spent hours trying to fine tune certain chords to get them to sound right only to find that another chord sounded somehow wrong.
The only notes that should be exactly in tune are Octaves and Unison, everything else needs to be very slightly out. the reason for this is that that Guitar Frets are set apart for Equal Temperament Tuning NOT Exact or (just) Tuning. Piano keys are tuned to equal temperament.
Here is a link that goes into detail on the subject, to me it makes sense and solves the headaches that at times have driven me nuts trying to fine tune when it was as good as it could be in the first place.
hubpages.com/hub/Equal-Temperament-Guitar-Tuning
The idea seems to be to have your guitar intonations properly set up. Tune the strings open or at the 12th fret using a good tuner and then trust that it is in tune. Don't then tweak individual chords to try to get them to sound perfect. Remember equal temperament. Certain intervals are meant to be be slightly sharp or flat but evenly so that our ears accept it. Read the tutorial in the link.
I hope that this helps. It did me.
Feel free to add to this thread.
All the best
George.