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Post by sheendigs on Jun 10, 2011 13:36:41 GMT
Hi Charlie Just wanted to know if on your new device..midi connections would be available? Sheendigs
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Post by betowelch on Jun 10, 2011 14:04:45 GMT
Hi Charlie:
My best wishes for your quick recovery. You can add my name to the list.
Cheers from Brazil! Roberto
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Post by Kurt Fröberg on Jun 10, 2011 14:24:16 GMT
Hi Charlie,
Count me in also!
Best regards from Sweden! Kurt Fröberg
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Post by Charlie Hall on Jun 10, 2011 15:17:03 GMT
Thank you to all who have shown your confidence in John and myself by putting your names forward in principle for a new echo unit. I do not think anyone who purchases a pedal will be disappointed. I now have over 50 names so it looks like we will be able to have at least 100 made as a first run. Even that quantity should definitely help to lower the price. I will now be looking for a manufacturer who can build these at a suitable price based on a known quantity. There is still a lot of work to be done, as I mentioned earlier. We will in the meantime continue with building patches and fine tuning them by making programming code adjustments. For those who saw the prototype, we are planning to make the production pedal wider to allow more space betweeen the footswitches. Other ideas for a case design are being considered. Possibly one idea will be to have the 5 controls lowered into a sunken channel so that they will not be accidentally moved in use.
Thanks also to those who have wished me well with my treatment next week. An operation should not be necessary. I have been told that a local anaesthetic would be used.
Hi rick, I should be able to get a review arranged in Guitarist magazine as soon as we have a production model ready.
Hi Shindigs, There will be no MIDI control on this pedal. It will not be necessary as the control of patches is easy from the pedal itself. Patches are selected by cycling up or down by pressing on one of two footswitches, and by holding either footswitches down the selection cycle is accelerated. MIDI control would be more appropriate for a rackmount unit. However, the programming of user defined patches will not be possible (or hopefully even necessary).
Regards, Charlie
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Post by asimmd on Jun 10, 2011 15:28:29 GMT
Hi Charlie
Just to be awkward,any chance of a rack mount version?
Alan
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Post by Charlie Hall on Jun 10, 2011 15:39:40 GMT
Hi Alan, A rackmount version was discussed but we thought a pedal would be the best option for a first product as it would be able to do everything that a vintage echo could do and be easy to use in a practical way, allowing for the differences in design concept of course. It is also difficult to find suitable MIDI pedals these days. It might be possible to do a rackmount model later, however I would like to stress that a rackmount version will not sound better. It would almost certainly complicate the integrity of the signal from the guitar as a longer guitar cable would be needed to reach the unit off stage unless a pedal system is already in use, for example. A rackmount design might have extra features like an additional balanced input and output for studio use, and possibly some kind of MIDI control but we are a long way from that yet. It also depends entirely on how well we do with the pedal. If MIDI was not a requirement it could simplify the design of a rackmount version greatly, but it would probably require an additional operator to control it off stage, for example. If it were something that players who play mainly for home use could be interested in, we can certainly think about it later. Regards, Charlie
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Post by topboost on Jun 10, 2011 15:47:33 GMT
Hi Charlie,
Add me in to the list for the new echo unit, please. Sigi
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Post by brian on Jun 10, 2011 16:24:07 GMT
Hi Charlie, add me too, and get well soon. regards Brian
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Post by Tori on Jun 10, 2011 16:30:44 GMT
Hi Charlie!
Add me please to the list.
Regards Tori
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Post by dobroman on Jun 10, 2011 16:39:21 GMT
Hi Charlie,
I'm already in the count, and hope all goes well next week for you.
I haven't done so, but if you want to boost potential numbers have you considered putting something on the "ShadowsMusic Web Community", I've looked but have seen no reference to your new unit, if you don't want to be bothered I am happy to start a thread on the site, but thought you might want to OK it first.
Regards
Brian
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Post by asimmd on Jun 10, 2011 16:46:36 GMT
Thanks Charlie
I asked because all my other gear is rackmounted.
A pedal won't be a problem,it can sit alongside my interface,I have some spare room on that rackshelf.
Alan
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Post by Rick on Jun 10, 2011 17:01:21 GMT
Hi Charlie,Glad that the problem with your chops isnt too serious though i know it probably feels not so. I know that there will need to be a lot of money paid up front for production costs etc & i will be more than happy to forward a good payment & the rest prior to delivery.In view of potential sales to us lot alone on site,Im wondering Wether it would be sensible to produce double the figure,Reason being that its a big world out there & with a special occasion like this ......... new release etc, I think that this new Charlie Hall product will find its way to many corners of the world. ..............Too early for the MK2 model yet eh ! ....... Just kidding ! Best wishes, Rick. ( the old les. )
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Post by jimmyc on Jun 10, 2011 17:04:06 GMT
Hi Charlie
I would also be interested so add me to the list.
Jim
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Post by burt075 on Jun 10, 2011 19:02:26 GMT
Hi Charlie put me on your list as a possible .
Cheers Bruce
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Post by Charlie Hall on Jun 10, 2011 19:42:08 GMT
Hi Brian, I am not a member of Shadow Music so I wouldn't really be able to monitor enquiries from there, however there would be no harm in spreading the news!
Hi Alan, Thanks. The usual perception of a pedal is that of a trimmed down version of a rack unit's capability, that won't be the case with the echo pedal as far as the sounds are concerned.
Hi Rick, A number of people have indicated that they would be happy to put money up front in the form of a deposit. While that could certainly be helpful at a later time, I would be uncomfortable with it until I have the finished products tested and ready to send out. The main aim at the moment is to get an idea of potential customers for a first production run so I can use that to fix the price based on the quantity ordered for manufacture.It is certainly my intention to order more than the initial orders would suggest. It is usual to order in round figures, such as 100, 250, 500, 1000 etc. As part of the costing will be in the design work, the more I order to begin with, it should lower the cost for initial and future orders.
Regards, Charlie
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Post by trickytree on Jun 10, 2011 20:07:22 GMT
Hi Charlie can you add me to the list please!
Ian
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Post by dakwah on Jun 10, 2011 20:13:05 GMT
better add me to the list as well
regards Stan
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Post by Bojan Drndic on Jun 10, 2011 20:37:59 GMT
Just to mention that this is actually the biggest Shadows web community (1,820 members) and the majority of the members of the other forums, including their administrators, are members here, so the sensational news on this forum about Charlie's new echo unit is bound to spread to the other communities very quickly !! This also includes the non-English communities.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 22:08:46 GMT
Hi Charlie, You can add me to the list as well thanks, regards Gerry.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 22:54:11 GMT
Hi Charlie Sounds like a great bit of kit. I cant wait to hear it. depending on price please pencil me in for one too. As for a name you could always call it a "Proper Charlie" ;D Well done !! All the best George
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Post by strat197 on Jun 11, 2011 5:16:22 GMT
Hi Charlie - Im still holding you to that Wonderful Land demo .. ;D Charlie, does this unit put my Q2 to shame ? If so, you better put me on the list. Get well too.. Regards Tony
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Post by brattmoore on Jun 11, 2011 6:42:34 GMT
Hi Charlie !
Add me please to the list.
Regards,
Khanh
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Post by dobroman on Jun 11, 2011 7:01:39 GMT
Hi Charlie,
I have posted news of the unit on the "ShadowsMusic Web Community" under the general heading of "Guitars & Amps". I took the liberty of copying yours (and Johns) messages giving details of the unit.
Hope this generates some extra business for you.
Regards
Brian
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Post by alanh on Jun 11, 2011 7:50:19 GMT
Hi Charlie,
The M/Stomp echo's are great, so put me on your list as well.
regards
Alan H
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Post by rosemary on Jun 11, 2011 9:57:22 GMT
Hi Charlie I'm very interested in your new unit too but wondered whether it would work over here in Australia with our 240V which I think is higher than in Europe and if it would run on batteries? I have to admit that a lot of the technical details go over my head but it sounds great.
Hope your dental problems will soon be fixed. A couple of years ago I had the same thing happen after an extraction (just the one tooth) and the dentist filed the bone down in a couple of minutes which was completely painless although it sounds a bit drastic.
Best wishes Rosemary
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Post by jiminayr on Jun 11, 2011 11:00:18 GMT
Hi Charlie Please add me to your ever expanding list Regards Jim
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Post by harley on Jun 11, 2011 11:34:02 GMT
Hi Charlie
I did mention it at the get together but just to confirm, Im another to add to your list
cheers Ian
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Post by alanmckillop on Jun 11, 2011 11:51:02 GMT
Just in case my earlier message isn't clear enough, put my name down as well Charlie.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Jun 11, 2011 12:52:14 GMT
Thanks to all those who have added their names to the list.
Hi Brian, Thanks for posting the news on the Shadow Music site.
Hi Rosemary, Thanks for your advice about the sharp piece of tooth. It's not causing me too much grief today, so I'm looking forward to Thursday to get it sorted out properly. The echo unit has a separate power supply unit, something like the G2 type power supply in appearance. I have sorted out a power supply from a UK manufacturer for the UK (and probably Europe if I order enough of them) but not for anywhere else yet. John will probably be able to source suitable power supplies for Australia. The echo unit cannot run on batteries, even if we wanted it to. Because of the likely smaller quantities I will not be able to have power supplies manufactured for every country, so in such cases, we will try to work out the best solution for a power supply.
The prototype (and this will apply to production models) requires a 12 volts AC output supply at 500ma and the connector is a very standard 2.1mm X 5.5mm. The DC output such as that from a Boss PSA unit will not work. It must be 12 volts AC. Because it will be AC, the polarity does not matter.
Regards, Charlie
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Post by guitarsam on Jun 11, 2011 15:16:09 GMT
Hi, Charlie,
Depending on the price and the availability of a suitable power supply for Australia, you can add me to the list too, please.
Regards, Scott
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