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Post by fenderplucker on Feb 23, 2009 13:34:24 GMT
Hi, To get the ball rolling, I offer the following hopelessly incomplete list (and please change format as you think best): 1. Antoria (model??) When used: up to 1959? Source of information: Hank in interview? 2. Vega (one Rickenbacker pickup near the bridge) Up to 1959 Source: Post by JN (any more info?) 3. Fender Strat (Fiesta Red, maple fingerboard, number ? ) When Used: 1959 -? Source: "Rock N'Roll" by BW, various interviews with Hank and Bruce 4. Fender Strat (Fiesta Red, rosewood fingerboard, number ? ) When used: 1961 - ? Source: The Young Ones? 5. Gretsch (Country Gent) When used: 1961 on Nivram and A Girl Like You Source: Hank. 6. Burns (Shadows...) When used: 1964 - 1971? Source:? 7.Fender Strat (White, rosewood fingerboard, number ? ) When used:? Source:? 8. Fender Strat (Black, rosewood fingerboard?, various pickups, number ? ) When Used:? Source:? 9. Current three Fender Custom Shop Strats. When used: ? Source:? 10. Various other acoustics? All comments and contributions welcome! Regards, Paul.
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Post by garyallen on Feb 23, 2009 20:18:10 GMT
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Post by alanmckillop on Feb 23, 2009 21:01:32 GMT
Seems like a good idea, although I'm going to stick to the years 1958 through to 1968 as I have a lot of TV recordings to back up what I'll write and I'll let others add the later years.
Regarding the Vega, I'll dismiss that as Hank's for the purpose of listing his guitars, since it was Bruce who played it as part of The Drifters/Shadows, otherwise you'd want to include Hank's Hofner (pre Drifters, could be Railroaders or before that)) as well.
Antoria - 1958/59 Fender Strat (the one) - Summer/Autumn 1959 to March/April 1961 Fender Strat (matching set) - March/April 1961 - Late 1962 or Early 1963 Fender Strat (White/White then White/Tortoiseshell) - Late 1962 or Early 1963 to Early 1964 Burns Marvin - Early 1964 - Late 1968 (Shadows split in December 1968)
In addition to the above, Hank was seen playing at least two models of the Burns Double Six from circa 1964 and he also had a Gretsch 6122 from circa 1960/61.
His acoustics included Gibson B25 (& B45) in Redburst and Gibson J200 in Sunburst.
These are from memory at the moment but can be checked if required.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 23, 2009 22:01:02 GMT
I had heard that the rosewood board Strats were replaced quite regularly as they wore out. There could have been any number of replacements during the period before the changeover to Burns. Hank played a Les Paul (don't know which model) during the Marvin, Welch, and Farrar years. I think the fatter sound he would have got with the Les Paul was the reason he went to the Dimarzio Fat Strat bridge pickup at some point when he went back to playing Strats. Regards, Charlie
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2009 2:34:58 GMT
HI TO ALL,,I have never bother'd to know what guitar's they played ,as I was alway's looking for what echo units hank used a very misterious thing in my early youth .. BUT I have a copy of ''shadow's-foot tapping'' by gearge geddes,,& the equipment used is listed , I I have not seen mentioned is a ''danelectro''& green sunburst ''burn's'' until stolen in 1971 from there van? ,,I will try to make a listing including dates & post ,that is if no one else has the ''geddes'' biography? ???published in ''glasgow''sept 1978 ?? CHEERS all ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,barry..''ps It lists gear of all member's lead ,ryhtm,bass & drum's? ?....
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 24, 2009 3:22:49 GMT
The serial number of "the" Strat is 34346. I remember Hank telling me that one of his custom shop stage Strats is a different wood body to the other two, but I don't remember which one. Regards, Charlie
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Post by alanmckillop on Feb 24, 2009 7:13:55 GMT
Hank had the White as well as the Green Burns Marvin, I was just listing the 'guitars, so for completeness, he also had a Greenburst and Redburst Burns Double Six. Can't remember about the Danelectro, but he also had a Giffen which he played on Paul McCartney's Rockestra, but since there is no evidence of him playing it as a Drifter/Shadow, I didn't bother listing it.
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Post by didier on Feb 24, 2009 8:39:41 GMT
Don't forget the HM Strat (Heavy Metal Strat) played by Hank at the Knebworth concert in 1990 : Pic captured on the DVD. As far as I know it was a Japanese model : LinkDidier
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Post by Tone on Feb 24, 2009 12:23:47 GMT
Interesting pic posted by Gary. So which Strat is that? It's certainly not 34346 because it has chrome hardware and a peculiar colour (on my PC it looks brownish orange!). I would guess the photo was taken late 70's or early 80's and I think Hank had a red strat around that time which I believe he bought from one of the Hollies.
Could that be the one in the pic? It certainly looks to have been well played in!
Tony
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 24, 2009 15:39:01 GMT
Hi Tony, You could be right about it being one of the old Strats that Hank bought. I do remember reading that Hank was playing 34346 for a brief period later on, I remember him saying how much he liked going back to it. This was probably during the 70's. Regards, Charlie
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Post by tonybiker on Feb 24, 2009 18:39:09 GMT
You also have to consider that Hank used a few guitars that happened 'to be around' when photos were taken. One obvious photo was for the front cover for the Album 'Hank Plays Live' when he noted in a mag that it belonged to Warren Bennett and was done for a laugh and he never even adjusted the strap. So it could well be that the photo being refered to could just be a strat that was 'hanging around'.
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Post by fenderplucker on Feb 25, 2009 6:26:44 GMT
BUT I have a copy of ''shadow's-foot tapping'' by gearge geddes,,& the equipment used is listed , I I have not seen mentioned is a ''danelectro''& green sunburst ''burn's'' until stolen in 1971 from there van? ,,I will try to make a listing including dates & post ,that is if no one else has the ''geddes'' biography? ???published in ''glasgow''sept 1978 ?? CHEERS all ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,barry..''ps It lists gear of all member's lead ,ryhtm,bass & drum's? ?....[/quote] Hi Barry, It would be great if you could give us the info out of Geddes' book, including the rhythm, bass and drums in the other threads. I doubt that many of us has this book. Paul.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2009 6:49:51 GMT
NO worries paul ,I was given a copy photo=copied copy probably 30-40 years ago & just dug it out paul It mainly consist's of 54 pages of info ,with little ,quotes from melody maker etc etc as well as a very compehensive ''discography'' this taking up 75% of the A4 pages..& only about 2 pages on the equippment & who they played with apart from the band itself etc etc
So I will do my best paul to post ,all that I can ,as the pages are loose & poor quality I could ,scan & post but it stipulates not to be copied etc etc ,but as you said earlier ''we,are in the colony's '' !!!!... cheer's barry...
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Post by fenderplucker on Feb 25, 2009 7:01:44 GMT
Hi Barry,
Just your summary of the data would be great if copies of the original is difficult.
Paul.
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Post by alanmckillop on Feb 25, 2009 7:15:11 GMT
I'm sure George also wrote an article (updated) on Hank's guitars for either Shadsfax or the UB Hank Club Echo over three or four issues, which might be easier to locate.
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Post by fenderplucker on Feb 26, 2009 5:16:16 GMT
Hi,
Regarding the first use of the Burns guitars, they were certainly used in Flingel Bunt recorded on 25/2/64, but, from the sound, also possibly on In The Mood/ Temptation/the Lonely Bull all of which were recorded on 11/2/64? Can anyone confirm?
Paul.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 26, 2009 11:10:41 GMT
Hi Paul, I know that Hank said that Flingel Bunt was the first tune with the Burns but he might have meant it was the first recording that was released. The others are album tracks aren't they? Regards, Charlie
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Post by garyallen on Feb 26, 2009 12:50:17 GMT
Hi to All...I Believe the strat in post no.2 was bought by Hank in the early 80s in France from Patrice Bastien and was used on most live performances through the 80s.Around this time he did have a 57 sunburst as a spare and used in the studio.I read somewhere that it was strung lighter than the red one and used more in the studio than the red one but i could be wrong.......
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Post by didier on Feb 26, 2009 14:31:04 GMT
Hi to All...I Believe the strat in post no.2 was bought by Hank in the early 80s in France from Patrice Bastien and was used on most live performances through the 80s. Hank Marvin did buy a 1958 Fiesta red Strat with maple neck in December 1980 from Patrice Bastien. During the 20 years during which Patrice ran a small vintage guitar import business in Paris, this guitar was one of the most prestigious model he had. Patrice asked Hank in 2004 if he still had this guitar and was using it, and the answer was yes. Didier
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Post by Amanda Hambidge on Feb 26, 2009 16:27:22 GMT
Hi All,
The Black 70's strat was used in 1979 at least I think, there's certainly video of him playing it on The Deer hunter on totp.
Amanda
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 26, 2009 19:42:53 GMT
I believe the black Strat is the same guitar that Ben now plays. Regards, Charlie
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Post by Mark Burton on Mar 2, 2009 17:02:48 GMT
What about acoustic guitars ? any takers ?
Regards
Mark.
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Post by macnik on Mar 9, 2009 20:53:08 GMT
Hank's been using Maton acoustics for many years and is still playing them currently.
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Post by mitch on Mar 12, 2009 17:05:10 GMT
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Hi Guys Just a bit of info on Hanks Antoria They were made in Japan in the late fifties/early sixties by Guyatone They were re-badged Antoria or Star by the UK importers. To confuse matters more, Guyatone imported under their own name. The model number for all three brands is LG50. for the 2 pickup version
I had a 1959 LG50 and i loved it Hank is on record saying the neck on his was awful, mine was a peach. It was my first electric guitar ,.I paid a fiver for it from Kenny Fillingham the guitarist withVince Taylor and the Playboys of which Tony Meehan was once a member. Mine had a fantasic sound ,quite teleish sad to say it got nicked I,d love to find another. Mitch
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Post by abstamaria on Apr 28, 2009 9:16:08 GMT
Just to confirm - the rosewood fingerboard Fiesta Red Strats had chrome, not gold, hardware, right?
Andy
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Post by Charlie Hall on Apr 28, 2009 12:34:13 GMT
Hi Andy, As far as I know with the ones used by The Shadows, that is correct. Regards, Charlie
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Post by abstamaria on Apr 29, 2009 3:50:07 GMT
Thank you, Charlie. I had assumed the Shadows used gold-hardware Strats, like Hank's first maple-necked Strat.
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Post by Fender Bender on May 7, 2009 20:57:04 GMT
Hi Everyone
I'm a new member and just mentioned earlier today to Charlie via email that my friends in SA don't agree with me that the Shads had matching white rosewood strats in the early sixties.I think around early ' 63. To my knowledge this was the strats that had tuning problems.Can someone give more info about this strats.I don't know if they ever recorded with them or still used the fiesta rosewoods for that purpose untill they started recording and playing live with the marvin burns.
Rgds
Louis [SA]
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Post by Fender Bender on May 14, 2009 6:05:13 GMT
Hi All
I'm a new member and wonder if some one can give more info about the matching white strats[rosewood fretboard] that the Shads used around 1963 ? My friends in RSA don't agree with me that this strats ever existed.I think that Rostill had a white P Bass at this period as well so it might be late ' 63 or early ' 64.
To my knowledge this was the strats that had major tuning problems and it will be interesting to know if they ever recorded with this strats or used the fiesta [rosewood fretboard] for that purpose until the arrival of the marvin burns in 1964.
That was the main reason why Hank wanted a guitar with more stable tuning,hence the marvin burns.I know that there was some burns prototypes around while they had this white strats.The other thing that I can't work out is the fact that what ever happened to the fiesta & white"rosewood" strats and the other guitars like Hank's gretch and Bruce's jazz master & tele ?
I know that the no.1 strat went back to Cliff and was used by "Terry",forgot his surname, that was Cliff's guitarist after the Shads first split in 1968.Bruce later manage to got hold of the strat and is still the current owner.It should have been Hank's, just making' a joke.
It will be nice to have some info on my questions and hereby I also want to thank Charlie for this wonderful website.Long live the sound of Hank & Shads !
Regards
Louis
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Post by Charlie Hall on May 14, 2009 10:43:04 GMT
Hi Louis, Welcome to the site. I have only a vague memory of the white Strats as used by The Shadows. Since guitars were fairly regularly replaced as they wore out, I think it would be likely that recordings were made with them but I don't think anyone can be certain. I had heard that John Rostill preferred to record with a Fender bass and not the Burns bass. Regards, Charlie
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