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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 11:30:19 GMT
Hello, I have just bought my self a fender 50s classic MX and a easymute tremolo. I have a vox pathfinder 10 and would like to know how to set up my guitar and the amp to sound like hank and the shads. I also have a zoom g2 with EFTP on. Please can someone help...
Cheers
Joe, 17.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Sept 23, 2015 20:23:44 GMT
Hi Joe,
I started playing this stuff when I was about 11. You have better equipment than I had at the time!
As far as the guitar is concerned I think a good sounding Strat can get you close to the sounds you are looking for, after all, Hank used stock Strats in the 60s. A lot of it is playing in the right style and knowing how to set the guitar and amp controls. However, I don't know much about the pickups that come with your guitar. They could already be very good or some might suggest changing them at some point. I don't know at the moment.
You don't say if you want to play other types of music. If you only want to play Hank and Shadows you need to decide what gauge of strings to use and this will partly depend on which tunes you want to play ie. early or later Shadows/Hank or all. String sets can be from 10s up to 13s. The heavier strings are harder to play. 11s would probably be a good starting point if you don't want to play any other styles. When you decide what gauge and brand and type to use, you need to have the guitar set up for that gauge and this includes setting up the tremolo so the bridge is floating properly.
With the amp, you will need to set the treble low as the Zoom G2 with EFTP is quite bright sounding, which alone is not what you want for Hank's sounds.
Let us know what you make of what I have said and any questions you might have, then we can go further.
Regards,
Charlie.
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Post by philc on Sept 25, 2015 6:58:32 GMT
Good info from Charlie Joe, if you're playing the Shadows earlier tunes, you will get a closer sound with a wound G, plenty of guys here to help with that sound though.
Phil
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Post by Stu's Dad on Sept 25, 2015 16:32:35 GMT
Hiya Joe, And welcome to the forum. If you just search around the forum at your leisure you can learn an awful lot about playing Shadows music. At the end of the day it's all down to you and how you play, with a lot of help from your equipment. You won't have any problem picking up the playing side, you're at that brilliant age when you soak information up like a sponge and practice every chance you get - I used to drive my parents mad. One little bit of gear that will help you is a Caline 10 Band EQ pedal at about £30, I was amazed at how much difference it made. Have a look at this link: charliehall.proboards.com/post/166390You've got a Fender and a Vox and an EFTP Echo unit, so you're already nearly there. Good luck, Len |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 16:40:40 GMT
Hi Charlie, I want to try and learn all the Shadows Hits and Hanks hits when he goes solo. I love the sound of hanks guitar on the 2004 final tour, but the 2009 one sounds even better! All I am interested in is playing the shadows/hank. The strings I use are 10s. Thank you for helping me out! I will definatly be back in touch with other questions haha.
Cheers Charlie
Joe
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Post by Charlie Hall on Sept 25, 2015 17:12:40 GMT
Hi Joe,
You might need a little more mids in the EQ with 10s. I play a custom gauge set that is close to 10s but I have Fender Custom Shop Fat 50s pickups, which do have a little more mids. I find that helps to make the 10s sound heavier than they really are.
Maybe if you can make a short recording and post a link to it here we can help you to fine tune your technique and sound.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 17:41:30 GMT
Hi Charlie, Okay I can record something but I am having trouble with getting my zoom g2 to recored onto my computer. I have done it before but now just wont seem to do anything no sound is going into my computer which is very odd. I am a training IT technician and I have tried everything i know just doesnt wanna play...
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Post by Charlie Hall on Sept 25, 2015 18:22:36 GMT
Hi Joe,
You won't get the best recording taking a direct signal from the G2. Do you have a decent mic so you can record your amp?
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 18:31:32 GMT
Hello Charlie, I do not have a mic... Do you think i should buy one? I have been looking at buying one of those amp USB mics.
Joe
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Post by Charlie Hall on Sept 25, 2015 19:10:06 GMT
Hi Joe,
Why not let us know some of the USB mics you have been looking at, then we can let you know what we think. Bear in mind that the amp needs to be working fairly hard for best results, which may be limited by your location, neighbours etc.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 19:15:56 GMT
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Post by Charlie Hall on Sept 25, 2015 20:27:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 14:03:17 GMT
Hi Charlie, Thanks I will try to save up haha...
Do you know what echo to use for move it... I have the zoom g2nu.
Cheers
Joe
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Post by Charlie Hall on Sept 26, 2015 14:21:23 GMT
Hi Joe,
C6 for the Cliff version of Move It.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 14:40:18 GMT
Hi Charlie,
Thanks again. Do you have a list of the songs by cliff that go with the echos just like you do with the shadows stuff that comes with eftp for my verison..?
Thanks
Joe
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Post by Charlie Hall on Sept 26, 2015 15:09:01 GMT
Hi Joe,
A7 will do for most of the Cliff songs.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by imfrettin on Sept 26, 2015 19:10:37 GMT
Hi Joe,
Reference your recording problem from Zoom G2 you didn't say what recording software you're using.
Regards
'H'
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 19:46:56 GMT
Hi, I use cubase...
Joe
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Post by George Lewis on Sept 27, 2015 8:02:17 GMT
Hi Joe, Re the G2 recording issue. Are you using Windows and connecting the G2 via a known good USB cable ? If so, then Windows should recognize the G2 as a USB Audio device and this should be selectable as a recording device in Cubase. Pretty straight forward (haha), so if Cubase is not recording the G2 signal then it is indeed an excellent problem solving riddle for a budding IT Technician.  If you can provide more details I'm sure we can track it down. Regards George |
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Post by TonyL on Sept 28, 2015 7:56:34 GMT
The basic G2 doesn't have a USB socket but does have a head phone socket which can be used to connect to the line-in socket on a PC. For recording I connect the head phone socket on my amp to the line-in on my PC.
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Post by George Lewis on Sept 28, 2015 9:21:21 GMT
Hi Tony,
Thanks for pointing that out. I have the G2.1u which has USB. Amazed that the G2 doesn't.
Should make tracking this down even easier.
Regards
George
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 11:18:47 GMT
Hi Guys,
I sorry I have a G2NU, and it has a USB B type connection in the back and does haver the cable just my laptop doesnt record this sound and doesnt show that any sound is going in...
Cheers
Joe
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