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Post by Cruachan on Feb 6, 2016 14:38:06 GMT
Hi Paul, Not sure about that. Both my Fender American Deluxe Strats have the little grub screw under the floating bridge base plate - you have to push down on the arm to tilt the plate forwards to expose the screw. It adjusts quite easily and the push fit arms are tensioned nicely. Regards, Mike
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 18:15:20 GMT
That's pretty much the Wilkinson method. Mine lasted a couple of days before it split the block. Ruined, and I'm not a heavy trem user.
Duncan.
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Post by Cruachan on Feb 6, 2016 19:43:14 GMT
Hi Duncan,
Sounds like you were unlucky and/or there was a manufacturing flaw in the block. Did you request a replacement?
Regards, Mike
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 20:20:00 GMT
Hi Mike, for some reason I didn't, but was mighty peed off. I have one very, very wobbly trem arm now.
Duncan.
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Post by Cruachan on Feb 6, 2016 23:26:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 19:34:16 GMT
Hi Paul, Not sure about that. Both my Fender American Deluxe Strats have the little grub screw under the floating bridge base plate - you have to push down on the arm to tilt the plate forwards to expose the screw. It adjusts quite easily and the push fit arms are tensioned nicely. Hi Mike.....Fender do have a grub screw on some models as you say...but as I said Leo Fender solved the problem with G&L... I think he sold Fender in 1965?.....so he didn't have any involvement with company from then on..... Whether he came up with the idea before Fender Inc. I don't know....I think G&L started in 1979, which maybe predates the Deluxe Strat and Fender may have copied his idea?.. also he may have used the same idea on the early Musicman guitars before he sold the company to Ernie Ball..... Cheers, Paul.... Regards, Mike Hi Mike
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Post by Cruachan on Feb 7, 2016 20:04:34 GMT
Hi Paul,
I wonder why Fender doesn't include this on all their guitars (with whammy bars) now rather than slavishly following the vintage specs. Surely the screw-in arm has proven to be a flawed solution. Would anyone really object?
Regards, Mike
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 21:10:37 GMT
Hi Mike, I agree.....seems odd to carry on with a system that causes a load of problems.....maybe on the early model reissues for authenticity but the later design would be better on everything else?.... Paul
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Post by harley on Feb 7, 2016 22:32:37 GMT
I personally believe Fender, like Harley Davidson and, I'm sure, many other American companies, employ a "if people are paying top dollar for it, why change it" attitude. Leo Fender, as mentioned above, moved on and continued to improve on his designs while Fender, particularly in the hands of CBS, seemed to be of the opinion that, so long as people are prepared to buy them like that, why waste money improving the product. Ya have to give it to the Americans, they support their own products, unlike most other countries in he world, our own (UK) included
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Post by allclaphands on Feb 8, 2016 9:27:14 GMT
Hi Paul, I wonder why Fender doesn't include this on all their guitars (with whammy bars) now rather than slavishly following the vintage specs. Surely the screw-in arm has proven to be a flawed solution. Would anyone really object? Regards, Mike Hi Mike I can't see anyone objecting to having a more better/improved trem arm on there guitar. but what would happen to all the businesses that make and sell the replacement blocks and trem arms ect there are a number out there who do.If my memory serves me well I think there was a big debate on here about the subject a few years ago about this and As Ian (Harley) as mentioned in his posting that Fender must know about it but decide to do nothing and just leave it as it is. Pete
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Post by Cruachan on Feb 8, 2016 9:45:22 GMT
Hi Pete,
They could try phasing the modification in gradually - some guitars with and some without - which would give the manufacturers time to retool and offer the mod as an alternative. Of course, easier said. Not sure how this would work out in practice. Fender could introduce this as a trial period to test the waters. It does seem daft to continue with something no one likes nor, indeed, wants.
Regards, Mike
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Post by allclaphands on Feb 8, 2016 12:16:39 GMT
Hi Pete, They could try phasing the modification in gradually - some guitars with and some without - which would give the manufacturers time to retool and offer the mod as an alternative. Of course, easier said. Not sure how this would work out in practice. Fender could introduce this as a trial period to test the waters. It does seem daft to continue with something no one likes nor, indeed, wants. Regards, Mike Would very much like to think so but honestly I can't see it happening it's the players of the guitars who very much want it and it's been going on for years even Hank had his Strat Trem altered and there have been lots of other brought out over time and the manufacturers just stick to there original design regardless of things.Its guys like Ron who started this Thread who get stuck in and come up with there own ideas and initiatives to remedy the problem. Pete
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Post by Cruachan on Feb 8, 2016 13:02:31 GMT
Hi Pete, Yes, perhaps, as you say, it would be best to leave such matters to innovators like Ron. Clearly he knows what he is doing while at the same time, dare I say it, putting Fender to shame. LOL, I'm not even sure that's the appropriate smiley - it just looked as though it might be! Regards, Mike
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Post by twanger59 on Feb 9, 2016 11:21:19 GMT
Hi guys , thanks for all your comments , it works really well , I have now got one on all 3 of my Strats , like I, said Ian tried it out for me at a little practice we had and he liked it , if anyone is at The Warwick Shadows Club this Sunday 14 Feb your welcome to try it , I know John at Staytrem is going to produce an updated unit, based on what I made ,Ron
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Post by twanger59 on Feb 16, 2016 11:40:12 GMT
hi, I used my latest version at The Warwick Shadows Club meeting on Sunday , it was superb , I am really pleased with it , it never came loose , and stayed in position all the time .
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