Hall and Collins pedalboard

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Just curious if anyone runs their Hall and Collins on a pedalboard with other pedals? I’ve thought about it, but then again I can’t decide between multi effects or stompboxes 🤷🏻‍♂️
Matthew

[gruntfuttock]

Hi Matthew. I have the HCSE on a pedal board. At present it’s accompanied with a Boss Tuner. Gemini 111 and a Tech 21 Liverpool. The P/B is quite heavey but reasonably compact.
I'm using a Boss Katana Head amp. I only use the internal EQ to reduce the 500 and high treble frequencies.
Dave

[frankmarvin]

I use the H&C on its own, I am satisfied with the sound, indeed its the best sound I have achieved for many many years, why spoil it / dilute it and make it sound different ? Mr Hall did a wonderful job with this unit, it supersedes all the other units, of course it is everyone to their own, but as the old ZULU saying goes. + A sharp spear needs no polish +. ( from Rider Haggard's : King Solomons mines :

Regards
Frank.

[shawbridge]

I find that running pedals via effects pedal board, affects the sound greatly and thus you Have to EQ everything On your Amp accordingly.
For Shadows, I go from AC30 to H&C then Guitar in the chain.
I find when I add other pedals, I loose quality in tone, for me the purerthe signal, the better, it’s similar to HI FI theoretically, the more in the chain, the signal breaks down further, hence good quality leads to help with the travel.
Pete

[franz]

Hi, Pete,
I agree with you that the less pedals there are in the chain, the better. However, mine is AC30, with a AC15 add-on attached, Q2 (i haven't got a Hall and Collins), Gemini and then guitar. Since I got the Gemini, it has transformed the tone from very good to almost spot on the original 1st Album sound, particularly on the middle p/u. Taking away some low EQ was the key. And to make sure this is not just in my head, I do direct comparisons-my sound to record and back. In fact after making some recordings of my own and then going back to the record and comparing the two, I found that with the Gemini on max cut, I still had to take more low EQ off, surprisingly. Unfortunately, though, my set up will not reproduce the slight overdrive/ roughness or whatever you want to call it, on the lower strings in the early AC15 numbers like Theme from Giant and Mustang, which I think is produced by the Meazzi.

Nigel (I don't know where Franz comes from)

























Nigel (I don't know where Franz came from)

[shawbridge]

Hi Frank,
Yes, interesting, I never liked CD reproduction of sound, in comparison to vinyl, the reason being that CD was ‘converted sound‘.
I heard a comparison with Linn LP12 Quad set up and the same with CD, CD was nowhere near the same quality, so in that, anything that has to convert the original sound, Zi have shy’d away from.
My AC30 has the Roger Alcock EF86mod, not sure if this is what you have but Im happy with the results from it.
Think you can get a reasonably close sound with lots of add on equipment but it’s one h..l of a job trying to eq it all and at that just for one tune.
It is a never ending saga with regard to sound relating to a certain shads track, for example, we have all the echoes etc in each patch on the q2 H&C and in a live sirptuation we are still compromised but then again, so are the Shadows.
Each track was eq’d at Abbey rd studio using the possibly same equipment we have, so you see in a live set, we can’t eq every track we play, we just generalise the sound but it’s still damm good?

[bor64]

I run one of the H&CSE in a big pedal-board.
Everything divided with a One Control Iguana 5 looper/switch pedal.

TC Electronic Poly2 tuner in tuner loop.

Line6 G30/or cord-Morley M2 vol pedal as main signal.

Ibanez LS-10 Dual Loop Selector for switching between wireless signal or with a signal cord, if needed.

H&CSE-Electro Harmonix Pitchfork-EH Hum Debugger- HB AcTone all in their separate loop.

Power via 1 spot 9V AC/DC power-supply, the H&CSE has it's own AC/AC power-supply and the EH Hum Debugger also because it's 7,5 AC volt.

So I can run every pedal on it's own, or together in every combo I want.

Works like a dream, the Hum Debugger is only used when needed in situations/rooms/venue's when hum is sticking it's ugly head up.

I had also other configurations including a EFTP Zoom G2.1u and/or a Zoom G3x on that pedal-board, but with a HB dual switch.


Cheers Rob

[bazmusicman]

Aug 24, 2020 8:35:03 GMT shawbridge said:

Hi Frank,
Yes, interesting, I never liked CD reproduction of sound, in comparison to vinyl, the reason being that CD was ‘converted sound‘.
I heard a comparison with Linn LP12 Quad set up and the same with CD, CD was nowhere near the same quality, so in that, anything that has to convert the original sound, Zi have shy’d away from.
My AC30 has the Roger Alcock EF86mod, not sure if this is what you have but Im happy with the results from it.
Think you can get a reasonably close sound with lots of add on equipment but it’s one h..l of a job trying to eq it all and at that just for one tune.
It is a never ending saga with regard to sound relating to a certain shads track, for example, we have all the echoes etc in each patch on the q2 H&C and in a live sirptuation we are still compromised but then again, so are the Shadows.
Each track was eq’d at Abbey rd studio using the possibly same equipment we have, so you see in a live set, we can’t eq every track we play, we just generalise the sound but it’s still damm good?

Hi Pete,

Nice to know the AC30 is giving you good service.

Regards,
Baz.

[shawbridge]

Hi Rob,
Yes, been there bought the shirt and all that and as you say, worked brilliantly but I was in a Rock/ jack of all trades scenario but once I went back to Shadows music and needed that negative feedback situation, it all changed, just couldn’t get the biting pure clean sound I wanted as all the other pedals had their influence on the sounds even when switched out.
The thing is, they were in the chain and that was the issue.
By the time it got to my guitar, the signal, it had come from lands end to John o groats.
I think possibly it’s a personal thing, for me the shorter the signal travel the better.
Pete

[shawbridge]

Hi Baz,
Yes it does when I get chance to use it But at present re covid restrictions our Band can’t play or rehearse.
Are you on Facebook Baz, The Band are on a few Shads forums.
Pete

[bor64]

Hi Pete,

I think you missed the part about my switch/looper, One Control Iguana pedal.
All my pedals has their own path direct to out....thanks to the above pedal!
So not one of them is in a chain!!!

Cheers Rob

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I didn’t have a loop switcher I have a GT 100 Boss Zoom G7 and various stomp boxes , a Eventide H9 and a Hall & Collins
Matthew

[bazmusicman]

Aug 24, 2020 22:22:58 GMT shawbridge said:

Hi Baz,
Yes it does when I get chance to use it But at present re covid restrictions our Band can’t play or rehearse.
Are you on Facebook Baz, The Band are on a few Shads forums.
Pete

Hi Pete,

It's hard for everyone that wants/needs to get out to play with this virus hanging over us.

Yes I am on facebook, i'll have to look you up.

Baz.