First off I have just joined the forum a couple of days ago after I ordered the Hall & Collins echo unit so would like to say hello to you all
I bit the bullit and decided to move on from my Zoom 3GX and *** Halls licenced echo patches and I took delivery of my nice new shiney Hall & Collins unit yesterday and its absolutely amazing, words just cant express just how good this unit is... thank you Charlie
I have hardly been able to stop playing stuff with it since I got it yesterday but I am a little stuck trying to choose a good patch for one of my favourite tunes, the Isle of Capri. There are just so many wonderful sounds to choose from and i have now got to the point where I have tried so many since getting it yesterday and they are all starting to sound good but I amy curently liking P23, think my brain is scrambled trying so many options so I was hoping the more experienced and less excited users than me may be able suggest one that you think would be most appropriate to use.
Post by Charlie Hall on Sept 10, 2020 14:31:10 GMT
Hi Dave, Great to see your enthusiasm for the H & C unit, thank you. For The Isle Of Capri try P26 and P28. P26 was a sound used by Hank in the earlier part of the Burns 60s era. P28 is similar but comes from the sound of a faster running machine. Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie... wow this is such an honour getting advice from the man himself... thankyou so much for pointing me in te right direction to get things started and I'll be using those settings from now on ... much appreciated. While I am chatting to you I would like to congratulate you on producing such a wonderful product. All the time and effort you must have put in on this over so many years has resulted in a truly fantastic device.. so well done Sir .
Last Edit: Sept 10, 2020 18:33:54 GMT by washbrook
Post by Charlie Hall on Sept 10, 2020 21:25:31 GMT
Hi Dave, Again, thank you. There were many obstacles with designing the software code. I asked John (RIP) many times to stretch the capabilities of what we had previously thought possible and he came up with a solution every time. I am of course delighted that we were able to complete the project with no compromises as far as we both were concerned. Regards, Charlie
Hi Dave Got mine today. Is the first three knobs wobbly on yours... 4 and 5 are fine.
I rang up today and they told me it was correct
I havent noticed it and to be honest and I have used mine every day since getting it... I cant put it away.... I love it. I havent really had need to adjust them much in use but since you have asked I have just checked mine out and although I certainly would'nt say they were wobbly, but I suppose if you were really nitpicking, you could say there is a marginal difference with the first three compared to 3 & 4 but as far as mine is concerned, it really is splitting hairs. There is a marginal amount of movement on the first three compared to 4 & 5 which I suppose you could say feel a little firmer but it really is so marginal I certainly wouldnt have noticed if you had'nt asked. I have no intention of looking but perhaps the 1st three are mounted differently internally possibly making them feel a little different.
I can understand your concern though because if I had found mine to be 'wobbly' on getting it, i think I would have thought the same as you and try and check out why, or get an explanation, especially concidering the cost of this unit. Perhaps its worth you asking the same question as a new topic on the forum as I am sure you will get answers from the more experienced users, also Charlie is always there to answer stuff so he would probably reply to you anyway and he could give you a far better explanation as to why they feel like that. I had an amp once that had a similar issue to what you have found and on looking inside, I found that some of the pots were PCB mounted and a couple were mounted directly on the front panel making them feel sturdier.
It truley is a wonderful piece of kit though and as you have already phoned the supplier and they said its normal, I am sure some re-assurance from Charlie wouldnt go wrong and he is the expert.
thanks Dave..... mine are quite wobbly, so the fact that yours isn't doesn't stand up with what the guy told me, he said anything in the last 2.5 years is the same. The unit works great, its just that if its like that from new...whats it going to be like in a couple of years...
Hi, I have replied to your message in your other thread. I don't believe any wobble of pots will get worse. I haven't seen these pots myself as yet so I am only able to indicate what I believe to be the reason for the difference between your unit and earlier ones. Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie I am sorry but i am going to send the unit back...... I am so disappointed by this, i have been so excited to get one. I have used a couple belonging to friends of mine and at the Shadows club i belong to. None of them have this issue, and all sound amazing. I have now shown it to several other members and all said send it back and get a replacement. Unfortunately i have been told by the guy i spoke to at the distributor he will collect but not send another as they are all like this.This cannot be true.
I have sent a video of the unit to the support email and await their response.
Sorry to spout this on here Charlie, but i have no other way to contact you.
I trust your judgement on this Charlie, so any comments would be welcome.
Hi, Well, you just sent me the video of the problem by email so I am not sure why you say you can't contact me other than here. On the other hand, I have no problem with you reporting it on here. I am glad of course that you sent the video to them. You have the right to return it, of course. I am sorry the unit has disappointed you. Regards, Charlie
Hello , I am Dirk Hendrickx from Belgium and a total beginner . It started for me when searching on Youtube a song from The Shadows en arriving by Ernst Burns ( Ernst Peischl ) . And I tought , wow , this is great . As Ernst told , he can’t read notes , and playing by ear , I thought , why not give it a go for buying a guitar. So , after seeking a lot on the internet , I bought a Fender FSR , MIM , fiesta red , with gold hardware and CS 50 fat pickups in the UK . Next step , a Vox AC15C2 . And then , some hard weeks trying to play the first notes from Wonderful Land …..Some times I thought , this is not going to work , I have no talent for this , but having a strong character , things start to improve , but the way is long . Anyway , you know better than me what I mean. The sound was very dull and bass like . So trying with the tone controls to improve , but not what I hoped for . After some searching on the Kinman site , I discover about guitar cable capacitance . I have a Fender De Luxe cable from 15 ft or 4,5 meters which have a capacity of 32 pF per foot. So 32 x 15 = 480 pF. If correct , this is to much and work as a treble cut. So I bought a Mogami Platinum , which have a capacitance from 70 pF / meter . The Klotz Titanium with 75 pF / meter is also good . The sound is better and have now less noise. But , as you all now , there was stil a big missing link. I bought the Hall & Collins , just for Brexit ! And wow , this is day and night !! What a sound ! I am so pleased with this Echo unit . Thanks Charlie for this huge work , for making such a fantastic Echo box . I think like told on the website : many years of work and trying. Yes worth every Pound. Each day I learn and enjoy my new hobby. Thanks for the internet , a big resource for The Shadows world…..
Hello Dirk, I read your post with interest. You are on the right track with cable capacitance. I prefer a 3 metre cable of around 330pf. However, probably by accident, I believe that Hank may have used a much higher capacitance cable in the early days. I know that nowadays he is very conscious of the need for a good quality cable especially with the first one coming from the guitar. Congratulations also for discovering the Hall & Collins Signature Echo! Regards, Charlie