Apache HCSE EQ2 preset by Bernard Coquelet

[Jono]

Hi Everybody.
This is my first test of the EQ2 Source Audio pedal & using Bernard Coquelet's presets.
*Note I have not adjusted any settings in the pedal or software. Only adjustments made is on my mixing desk Hi,Mids,Low (basic EQ's).
I currently have hand problems so there are a couple of missed notes but this is purely for a sound test not for a pat on the back.
Further it may help some of you who are unsure on whether to invest in the pedal & use of Bernard's very kind free presets.

app.box.com/s/e8hj2k0w5smr1hjhjt0nqjpojenk3i9a


Regards
Jono

[bernardj]

Hi


I am writing it again I am very honored that here, where there are so many people who know the world of Shadows so well, you give me the pleasure to interest you in my Theory.

I will quietly try to answer and help those who seriously test this theory

You must accept to use an EQ capable of working on several points in Parametric Mode. It is true that the Source Audio EQ2 does this very well and we can swap the curves with it as much as we need.

The reason for a parametric EQ was again well explained by Gary, but of course we'll talk about this if necessary.

Then and to quote Gary again, it is possible to make the first experiments with plug-ins and a DAw but do not forget that the real goal of my theory is to play with his tube amp and obviously with his band on stage by pressing on the EQ2 pedal and the correct number of the tune you want to play.

I repeat again that the more you have a good equipment at the start, the more your pleasure will be great .. ex 1959 Strat or close, Vox tube amp, Echo H&C or TVS or others .. or of course a real Meazzi Clone .. but do not forget also that I tested my theory on material which does not correspond to our dreams (Squier made in China, Peavey Classic 30 etc ... and that the result is present.
the fact of using a parametric EQ allows as Gary notes to make the adaptation to your personal equipment

I would like to say 2 things to finish this post is that there are 2 tunes where I am not satisfied with my work (but I am studying with other friends how to improve) it is Apache and FBI and therefore these 2 presets will be offered as soon as correct to my ears)


The second thing is that since loading presets that you loaded here, I have finely but significantly improved these 40 presets
So if while waiting to completely renew the loading of your EQ2 you would like us to make a post on a tunes in the presets, I will put this tune in download.

I would also like to thank all the French fans on Didier Parot's site who have been collaborating for 2 years to develop this theory.
one person cannot understand and know everything ...


we will also talk about how the EQ2 participates with my Theory to emulate the tunes which were played on AC 15, AC 30 4/6 / AC 30 Top Boost because these 3 amps are extremely differents, few fans have these 3 amps !
 
thank you very much for the time you spend trying and the patience to read from google translate

[Charlie Hall]

Hi John,
Good sound but I think your other version that we very recently discussed together was better. This version seems to have too much bass removed.
The AC15 that Hank used on Apache (and almost certainly Quatermasster's Stores) was the circuit 2 version, which had more bass. This makes the sound seem much closer and up front.
Regards,
Charlie

[Jono]

Hi Charlie, Bernard,
I am sole carer to my son which takes most of my time up so bear this mind when waiting replies.

I agree Charlie, the thing is though, to my now much dilapidated hearing it should be a thin hard sound with great clarity (with deeper, though not loud low overtones which this generally unmolested sound file has even with no post processing or even mastering indeed I did not use headphones to mix it.
I sought only to give a very small idea as to what Bernard's presets offer out of the box as it were & as I said this was purely as a sound test & not meant as a finished product.
My thoughts are that if you listen to the echoes the modulation of them run into each other as on the record.
Several points
1. This was recorded direct into my DAW my AC4 was not used which Bernard recommends which I will when my health improves.
2. If I understand correctly either the EQ2 Source Audio or two (units) matched parametric equalisers must be used otherwise it won't work.
3. If Bernard's theory is correct then how was it originally recorded in Abbey road?.
4. I have always said that Apache is the hardest Shadows number to get correct because of the complexity of Hank's sound on this tune.

I am lucky to have the best equipment available to me from custom shop guitar to HCSE units etc & hope to fully investigate this theory.

Jono

Bernard- if you would put a link here for your updated presets it would be appreciated.

[bernardj]

Hi Jono

I will reply to your post ... just a little time to adapt the translation.
thank you

regards
Bernard

[bernardj]

Hi Jono

First of all thank you for taking your time to test my theory
It is always courageous to record and submit to different opinions ... but it is especially very enriching when the spirit and the words are constructive

I agree with Charlie's comment for the opening in the bottom
the filter is very easy to adapt to largely remedy this problem.

Charlie  I think that when you speak of circuit 2 of the AC 15 you speak about the circuit which is not that of ``Tremolo '' with the ECC tube but well the one which includes the EF 86 tube?

However, my theory is not based directly on the electronics  but on the control of the resonances of the guitar.
This solution, even if it is not perfect, has the merit of being piloted directly by our ears with proven support for acoustics and physics

I said in a previous post that I was not satisfied with 2 presets in the load and I'm still working on it of course! these are Apache and FBI ... there are a lot of reasons for this and I would certainly make a contribution on those reasons ..

Apache and Quatermaster were registered in the same session there is little chance that Hank changed his amp for about 3 hours.
My questioning on this subject focused on the possibility thanks to their close electronic resemblance on the use of a Selmer True Voice and AC 15 ...

So I turned to a friend who repaired and restored several Selmer amps and he provided me with the curves of the '' Tremolo '' entry which, unlike the AC15, has a bass and treble setting

Of course I do not assert anything, but I would like to make you hear the result with a Selmer emulation with the EQ2 on Quatermaster

app.box.com/s/txw3pqtazasldbc4cz5p6o3x5w5g7m7k

thank you again for being so kind to follow my modest contribution

regards

Bernard

[Charlie Hall]

Hi Bernard,
The 1959 AC15 schematic shows the tremolo working with the EF86. We call this circuit 2. Some of these AC15 amps were built without tremolo. I do not know whether Hank's amp was fitted with tremolo but I think it makes little or no difference to the basic sound. These amps also had individual channel tone controls and there was no cut control.
The 1960 AC15 had the tremolo working with the ECC83. We call this circuit 3. The EF86 channel on these amps had the Normal/Brilliant chickenhead selector switch. These amps had the cut control but this control may also have been labelled as tone.
There was a circuit 1 model but I have never seen a schematic for it. My understanding is that this first model did not have an EF86 channel.

Regards,
Charlie

[bernardj]

Charlie

thanks for all this details
bernard