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Post by Roger... on May 11, 2010 18:54:24 GMT
Hi All, I wrestled with this one for ages. What pickup to use, what tone to use etc. Thanks to Charlie, his website and you good people I have now settled for this version. I hope it's ok. Any comments welcome. www.4shared.com/audio/R8gCw9vr/Stranger_2.htmlKind regards Roger
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Post by pacman on May 11, 2010 19:09:44 GMT
Hi Roger, It sounded very good the backing track and the guitar The only thing I found was because my speakers on my laptop are rubbish I use a pair of headphones and the backing track is in my left ear and the lead guitar is in my right ,its better when I play it through my speakers.The tone on the guitar was excellent. Regards David
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Post by Roger... on May 11, 2010 19:52:35 GMT
Hi David,
Thanks for your comments, and for listening.
Until recently, I combined my backing tracks with the lead guitar at the recording stage. Now, I've started to record the backing track on the left and the lead guitar on the right (stereo). Perhaps this is not the right or best thing to do. I am not very experienced at this recording lark so am looking for any advice from any of you good people out there on the best way to do it.
Kind regards Roger
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Post by grip on May 11, 2010 22:50:09 GMT
Hi Roger,
If I remember correctly you are using a recorder rather than PC to record. If you are, a solution may be to carry on recording as you are with the Lead on the right and BT left, then download the free software "audacity" and drag your Stero original BT into that , followed by your Lead track. You can pan the lead round to the centre and finish with a good mix.
Your playing is very good,as is your tone. Thanks for sharing this Roger.
Kind regards,
Chris
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Post by Roger... on May 12, 2010 7:06:59 GMT
Hi Chris,
Thanks for your reply and your kind comments.
As you say, I do use a recorder. The recorder does give you various options. You can record the BT on one track and the lead on another, then mix the two either as a stereo type recording (as the one posted) or pan them both to the centre (or with various degrees of pan). I also have 'Audacity', 'Power Sound Editor', and 'Nero WaveEditor', which I use occasionally.
Do you think it is best to mix both the BT and the lead to the centre for the finished track?
(The BT track by the way, is mono)
Your comments would be very much appreciated.
Kind regards Roger
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Post by grip on May 12, 2010 10:22:38 GMT
Hi Roger,
I think most of us would put both tracks to the centre or only slightly offset from centre. You can always experiment with the stereo (not for this particular number though) by copying your lead track twice and cutting portions of each track out to get the impression of a moving guitar (by going left - centre - right and back again) or just to create a better impression of a second instrument in a different location on harmonies. It's all good fun trying these things imo.
Kind regards,
Chris
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Post by Roger... on May 12, 2010 12:28:16 GMT
Hi Chris,
I note your comments and find them very interesting on panning a little left and right of centre to give an impression of movement etc. I have never thought about that one. I think, judging from your observations, that I am going to pan the BT and lead guitar to centre like I did it before. I feel it makes for a better overall sound. I will still record them on separate tracks, because it gives me the ability to post edit either track individually, should I want to. I will then 'pan' them together in the centre for the final mix.
Kind regards Roger
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Post by pacman on May 12, 2010 20:07:22 GMT
Hi Roger, I did post a reply to you last night but I see it did'nt arrive.There was also another reply to another member that also did'nt get posted. I think there was problems with IE .I see you have got some good help and advice from Chris.What I did say in my reply last night was that I'm also new to recording and I do struggle sometimes so I would'nt of been much help I use a Boss Micro BR and a couple of times I nearly gave it all up but I'm getting there slowly Good luck with the recording. Regards David
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Post by Roger... on May 12, 2010 20:44:13 GMT
Hi Brian,
Thanks for your reply. I too use a MICRO BR and struggled for ages to get the hang of it. Now, I am well away and use it all the time, recording lots of takes on different tracks and picking the best one for the final mix. I do not use the drum/rhythm part of though, so I don't know much about that side. I always use track-1 v-1 for my BT (having previously recorded my BT to it), and the other tracks and v-tracks for the lead. The lead guitar comes via my guitar amplifier 'phones/record' output socket to the MICRO BR input socket. I monitor the recording via phones from the output socket of the MICRO BR.
I hope the above makes some sort of sense.
Kind regards Roger
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Post by Len on May 13, 2010 4:26:51 GMT
Hi Roger,
That was a very good version of The Stranger. I agree with the comment that Chris made about the lead being in the centre. I think that this might make the lead sound a little stronger.
That did not detract from what was an excellent recording. Well done Roger. Thanks too to Chris and others about various options for recording. I found that quite helpful.
Cheers, Len
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Post by Roger... on May 13, 2010 5:50:56 GMT
Hi David, My apologies. The next but one post above was for you. For some reason I addressed it to Brian? ??........ I must be fading a bit I think. Anyway, best wishes with your MICRO BR. It took me a while, but now I think it's great. Hi Len, Thanks for your observations and kind comments. Yes, I think I've decided to put the BT and the lead in the centre. I agree, that with them panned left and right it seems to lack 'strength', 'fatness', 'body' etc. Kind regards Roger
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Post by pacman on May 13, 2010 15:43:18 GMT
Hi Roger, Thats OK I've done the same thing myself.My methods of using the BR is as follows:- I import my B/T onto trk's 3and 4 then I put my guitar onto trk's 1 and 2 then bounce them on to V2. I haven't got to the stage of using the other tracks to record but I'm still learning. Kind Regards David
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Post by Roger... on May 13, 2010 18:18:54 GMT
Hi David,
By saving your BT to tracks 3 & 4, and your guitar on tracks 1 & 2, do I take it that you record them in stereo?
Did you know that can save them to to a single track each if you wish, rather than a pair?
If you already know that, just ignore me.
Kind regards Roger
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Post by pacman on May 13, 2010 20:18:30 GMT
Hi Roger, The reason I'm recording my way is because I'm copying page 52/53 of the manual and as I had problems getting them in stereo I suppose its a case of better the devil you know.Once I get more familiar with it I'll start to experiment with different ways to record.
Kind Regards David.
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Post by Roger... on May 13, 2010 21:49:47 GMT
Hi David,
Ok, I see now. Best wishes with the MICRO BR.
Kind regards Roger
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Post by richie on May 14, 2010 8:05:06 GMT
sounds great mate
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Post by Roger... on May 14, 2010 10:50:01 GMT
Hi Richie,
Thanks, and thanks for listening.
Kind regards Roger
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