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Post by Roger... on May 16, 2010 11:26:45 GMT
Hi All, Just learned this one. I am using the correct patch but I can't help but feel it needs more body or something. What do you think.... all comments good and bad are welcome? www.4shared.com/audio/z_rozLos/Mustang_1.htmlKind regards Roger
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Post by grip on May 16, 2010 11:48:53 GMT
Hi Roger,
I think you have particularly good sound for this, no bodies needed ;D You play it very well, I enjoyed listening to it, thanks for sharing.
Kind regards,
Chris
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Post by Roger... on May 16, 2010 12:46:26 GMT
Hi Chris,
Thanks for listening and your kind comments. It is not the first time that I have thought this about some of my numbers. Perhaps the perception is different when you listen to your own numbers against when you listen to other players renditions...... strange.
Thanks again.
Kind regards Roger
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Post by tonybiker on May 16, 2010 12:59:20 GMT
Hi Roger. Its an awkward tune to play is Mustang!, and you did really well with it, excellent in fact. My only thought is the lead is a bit loud, if you turn the lead down a touch I think it will fit into the backing track better. Your sound is very close to the original, not sure about what delay setting your using? and I would like to hear it again should you modify it because a number of imperfections (heard on the original as well) will disappear. I think this will sort it out, because you have noted that you have the correct delay but something is missing. It could be that you need to hide something rather than add something?? Does that make sense??. You can then play about with EQ, for example turn the treble down a bit and so on.
Not sure if Hank ever recorded Mustang again on more modern gear? Would be interesting to compare how he sounded now compared to the original which is what your basing your sound on. He may well have used those 14 gauge strings that he said he used those days!
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Post by Roger... on May 16, 2010 13:43:33 GMT
Hi Tony, Thanks for you kind comments, and thanks for listening. I have reduced the volume on the lead and re-mixed. I think it does sound better. I cannot do anything about the bass/treble without re-recording the tracks. Below is the re-mixed version. www.4shared.com/audio/wOkUJAMK/Mustang-3.htmlI agree, there might be a different sound if using 14's......, absolutely no chance, I can only just cope with 10's. Thanks again. Kind regards Roger
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Post by tonybiker on May 16, 2010 17:38:15 GMT
Hi Roger.
Its come to life! Excellent, good work on the remix. I really feel its much better now. Nothing else needed. Give yourself a big tick on this recording. You have played this well. ;D
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Post by Roger... on May 16, 2010 17:47:32 GMT
Hi Tony,
Many thanks, and thanks for the advice, you are very kind.
Regards Roger
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Post by tonybiker on May 16, 2010 17:53:21 GMT
I enjoyed listening to mustang, you played it really well. I know its a sod to get to grips with!
I am not saying I was right with the levels, but it does sound mighty better now. You have clearly worked hard on this one, so a few minutes listening to your music and enjoying it, and then giving an opinion is the least I can do.
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Post by joeboy on May 16, 2010 18:05:51 GMT
Hi Roger I listened to both recordings & agree with what has been said before. I think in the first mix your guitar was too loud & dominated the tune, so all attention was on your guitar with the backing track playing softly in the backgound. By reducing the volume the lead has blended nicely into the backing track, making a very nice recording. Very nicely played.
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Post by grip on May 16, 2010 18:32:53 GMT
Hi Roger, Hi Roger, Tony's advise worked well, it is a definite improvement. Perhaps the perception is different when you listen to your own numbers against when you listen to other players renditions...... strange. I think there may be some truth in what you say here, it would be nice to borrow another pair of ears to listen to your own playing. Kind regards, Chris
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Post by Roger... on May 16, 2010 18:51:47 GMT
Hi Tony, Robert, and Chris,
Many thanks for listening and giving your constructive opinions. much appreciated.
Kind regards Roger
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Post by Charlie Hall on May 17, 2010 1:10:17 GMT
Hi Roger, Well played with a good sound. I have listened to both versions and the mix is better on the second. I think the only way to improve it would be to reduce the bass of the backing track, and perhaps add a little reverb to the lead guitar. Regards, Charlie
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Post by Len on May 17, 2010 1:38:36 GMT
Hi Roger, See, you didn't have to raid the crypt looking for more bodies. ;D Only the crypts of very rich people have much reverberation Charlie. ;D With the helpful advice you have received on this site, you have managed to do really exceptionally well with providing that vintage sound of the Shadows. I think that the second version is a considerable improvement as far as the mix is concerned. I think that it underlines the value of such wonderful constructive criticism available from time to time here. I agree with Charlie's comments about the reverb and bass reduction. But I wouldn't really have noticed that unless he had mentioned it. I enjoyed listening to your very good rendition. Thanks for sharing it Roger. Regards, Len
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Post by Roger... on May 17, 2010 6:15:52 GMT
Hi Charlie and Len,
Charlie: Points taken about the BT and the lead. I did put a little reverb on the lead in the re-mix but probably not enough. I'm very guilty of over-egging the pudding when it comes to reverb so I consciously have to back-off.
Len: I fully echo your sentiments of the value of Charlie's website. It has opened up a new life to hundreds (thousands) of people. Glad you enjoyed my rendition, appreciated.
My thanks to you both for listening, your constructive criticism, and kind comments in helping me get this right.
Kind regards Roger
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Post by shawbridge on May 17, 2010 8:52:17 GMT
A very good rendition there and the guitar sound almost spot on but as someone has said it is missing the reverb to throw out the sound as on the origininal,whiuch is more noticable on the damping parts. The original appears to throw the sound out were in your version it sounds like it is enclosed if you get my meaning but very well done none the less. cheers Peter
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Post by Roger... on May 17, 2010 13:12:45 GMT
Hi Peter,
Thanks for listening and your comments. Maybe it was the reverb that was missing in my original post when I said it lacked body or something that I couldn't put my finger on. But I think that was the lead too loud as others have commented. I have had comments on my numbers before advising more reverb. I suppose I don't use much nowadays as I always used to go over the top with it. Hmmm, compromise I think.
Kind regards Roger
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