How about a list of tracks and pickups?

[piotrek]

Hello there,

I would imagine this could have been thought of before but I've just had an idea of making a list of Shadows' tracks with pickup selection assigned to them. What I mean here is the originally used pickup selection and not what Hanks uses these days which is almost entirely the bridge.

Let's just take the first LP and, to my ears, I reckon the only bridge tune is Shadoogie and the rest is primarily the middle pickup.

So for those who want to recreate the original sound the pickup selection, I believe, should be the starting point.

But, what do you all make of this idea?

regards,
Piotrek

[grip]

Hi Piotrek,

Anyone who has bought EFTP from Charlie will have such a list, he has prepared one for each device and supplies it with the patches.


Kind regards,


Chris

[Deleted]

hello Poitrek
Chris is Right the recommended pick up selection list for most of the numbers comes with the EFTP patches. That's how I got em.
Regards
George.

[piotrek]

Hello Chris,

Yes, I know about that and, what's more, this list's given me this idea. However, the list that comes with Q2 EFTP doesn't have all the tracks on it and, for instance, The Frightened City is assigned the bridge rather than the middle.

regards,
Piotrek

[alanmckillop]

I also think that FBI uses the middle p/u, but changes to the bridge in the middle.

This could be an interesting experiment, because a lot depends on how everyone hears things.

[piotrek]

Hello Alan,

Yes, I'm pretty convinced on FBI he used the middle for the first bit and switched to the bridge for the second verse, solo and then back to the middle for the damped bit and then again back to the bridge for the third bit.

regards,
Piotrek

[richie]

Oct 3, 2010 11:06:31 GMT piotrek said:

Hello Chris,

Yes, I know about that and, what's more, this list's given me this idea. However, the list that comes with Q2 EFTP doesn't have all the tracks on it and, for instance, The Frightened City is assigned the bridge rather than the middle.

regards,
Piotrek

hi there but its not the bridge its the middle hank uses

[tezza]

Hi after looking closely at the vidio and dvd of Hank playing you can if your paying close attention see Hank cunningly change pickups on the down stroke and up stroke at the end of a verse or particular passage in the music , a very nifty move and in Quite a few songs not just the ones mentiond above .
but that is his style , everyone is different do you realy need to be that specific in playing . do we realy need 5,000 other Hanks out there , LOL, there only is one Hank no matter how we emulate him
just have fun and let the music and your heart tell the story

tezz

[rjanuarsa]

But I think it is always nice and also important to be faithful to the original when you play, Shads tunes or any cover for that matter . That is why The Rapiers is the best Shads tribute band around because the sound much like them, and they even look like them. That is the ideal situation in my humble opinion.

Regards,

Robby

[Deleted]

Hi,

First and foremost, I would agree with what Chris has already said that most of the pick-up setting suggestions can be found on lists provided either by Charlie for EFTP or by Paul for TVS users.

On the point raised about the choice of pick-ups for FBI, I would suggest that people do not read too much into what Hank does on stage if they are trying to replicate what he does on record. Most of us like to add their own variations to what might be regarded as the 'standard' version and Hank is no exception when it comes to playing on stage or even miming in front of the camera. You only need study the settings he choses during the final tour to see how differently he plays things now compared with those early days. Peace Pipe is the most exaggerated example - played on the neck pick-up on record, but in complete contrast on the bridge on the tour.

I would respectfully suggest that if you listen very carefully at the tones achieved by Hank on FBI you can hear that the middle section is played with the bridge pick-up but fingered between the 5th and 8th frets - which gives the passage its slightly hollower tones compared with it, say, if you play it lower down. It's easy to mistake this phenomenon with the use of a different pick-up. If you cannot match Hank's sound where you normally play a track - try a string lower, but 5 frets up and you might find that you are closer.

Cheers,

Ian