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Post by martyn on Jan 9, 2013 1:31:22 GMT
Here's my version of an early Cliff hit using a superbly clean Roger Paulsson backing track with me doing the lead sung parts on guitar. Fender US '62RI fitted with D'Addario nickel wound 10s, middle pickup - Behringer SE200 Spectrum Enhancer - Magicstomp EFTP Patch U16 - VOX AD60VTX - recorded in Garageband with added Cathedral stereo reverb within that software. www.box.com/s/jlfaknlc292s3vvxbc1iLet me know what you think - good or bad . . . Cheers, Martyn
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Post by gusstrat on Jan 9, 2013 6:56:12 GMT
Hi Martyn,well played,nice Shadowy sound,well done. Gusstrat.
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Post by Gerhard on Jan 9, 2013 7:05:44 GMT
Hi Martyn ! Good or bad ? Very good ! Superb rendition, nice variations ! Kind regards Gerhard
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Post by martyn on Jan 9, 2013 8:18:53 GMT
Hi Gusstrat and Gerhard,
It's quite a simple song and I wasn't sure it would work so well as a tune but I have to confess I'm rather pleased with the outcome. Typical of the period, it's short so not so much to remember!
Thanks for your very kind comments.
Cheers, Martyn
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Post by allclaphands on Jan 9, 2013 8:50:24 GMT
Hi Martyn Nice one.A very good interpretation of this song. Enjoyed it very melodic. Regards Pete
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Post by martyn on Jan 9, 2013 9:22:38 GMT
Thanks Pete - glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers, Martyn
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Post by loujones12 on Jan 9, 2013 10:04:15 GMT
Hi Martyn. Excellent. Great sound and very well Played. very enjoyable. Regards Lou
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Post by davechap on Jan 9, 2013 10:16:04 GMT
hi Martyn, that was very well done thanks,it brought back some fond memories, cheers Dave
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Post by martyn on Jan 9, 2013 10:36:41 GMT
Hi Lou and Dave, Thanks for your very kind comments.
Cheers, Martyn
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Post by salmo on Jan 10, 2013 11:52:14 GMT
Hi Martyn, Yeah man. Lovely sound. So warm and realy well played. Loved it Johnny
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Post by frankmarvin on Jan 10, 2013 12:31:01 GMT
Hi Martyn, that was gorgeous, rich, melodic and very well played, top knotch:) Regards, Frank:
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Post by kipper on Jan 10, 2013 12:44:18 GMT
Martyn enjoyed that a lot very well played. peter
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Post by martyn on Jan 10, 2013 13:16:22 GMT
Hi Johnny, Frank and Peter,
Thanks for such kind comments. Much appreciated.
Cheers, Martyn
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Post by grip on Jan 10, 2013 13:43:38 GMT
Hi Martyn,
A nice "rich" sound, curious to know if you added any compression to this recording or used a mastering limiter? Well palyed and a good BT from RP again.
Kind regards,
Chris
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Post by megagubben123 on Jan 10, 2013 13:54:55 GMT
Hi Martyn! This is one of the best versions i ever heard. // Regards Tommy
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Post by martyn on Jan 10, 2013 18:34:02 GMT
Thanks Tommy - much appreciated and I'm glad you approved.
Hi Chris, Just like Tonelabs, I think the Vox VT amps have the same compressor built in that is inclined to be a bit either/or rather than having much control over its intensity. It has only two controls - the 'drive' was set at 10o'clock and the 'level' at 2 o'clock and I used it for this track because I wanted that initial slight compressive fast attack click on the notes and for its extra sustain. Not ideal, as a separate compressor pedal would have more optional controls. I recall Charlie said he didn't think much of the Tonelabs' compressors, possibly due to this lack of control choice. I've never used a limiter so have no experience of how it might affect things.
Aside from this compression I just remembered I did use some software EQ in Garageband, selecting a preset that gives 'bass clarity' but that actually had a minimal effect on the tone, to be honest. I've recently reverted to 10s after experimenting briefly with 12s (don't have the finger strength to bend those any more, especially the wound third) but mostly 11s and I was concerned the sound could be too thin, which is why I was playing with compression and other EQ in order to artificially thicken up the notes if possible. I also dialled back the guitar's treble control a couple of notches and my strat's rosewood neck helps soften the tone a tad further, despite some folk saying they hear absolutely no difference between rosewood and maple. I disagree. I believe much of Hank's early stuff was recorded using a rosewood necked strat and (allegedly) heavier gauge strings, the combination of these would produce a slightly more rounded soft tone when using middle or neck pickups. Not quite so obvious with the bridge pickup, but still a somewhat thicker rather than thin sound would result - at least that's my personal opinion, based upon memories of the late sixties when I owned a '59 rosewood strat which had quite thick strings.
Cheers, Martyn
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Post by grip on Jan 10, 2013 20:08:50 GMT
Hi Martyn,
A very detailed reply, thank you. It was the attack click (or"pop") that prompted me to ask the question, I think it takes something away from the note.
I wholeheartedly agree with your thoughts on rosewood versus maple neck sound, I'm a great believer in the effect of timbers and finishes effecting the guitar sound. I also use D'Adario10's (EJ20's with the heavier bass strings and wirewound 3rd).
Kind regards,
Chris
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Post by martyn on Jan 10, 2013 23:25:41 GMT
Hi Chris, Yes that click can be a problem if it's over prominent and I guess this must have been for you to immediately pick up on it.
To emulate that earlier sound I really should be using heavier strings with a wound third but each time I've tried some - or even just used a lighter wound instead of plain in a lighter set, I struggle with the bends but more importantly I have two problems with it:
Firstly, the wound third is always quieter than its neighbours, even though the 57/62s have staggered poles and the third's pole is higher than the others so should be amplifying it a touch more. I can adjust playing attack to accommodate this volume imbalance but it's tricky to get right every time.
Secondly, the wound third just doesn't sound right, particularly when new and doesn't give me the tone I think it should. Sounds quite unstrat-like, if that makes sense. Others seem to get a great sound when they use them but not me so far. I did debate going for heavier strings with a thicker plain third instead of the wound in order to bulk up the tone but avoid that new wound string sound but haven't yet found a suitable set to permit this.
Any ideas?
Cheers, Martyn
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Post by dragonman on Jan 25, 2013 23:27:53 GMT
Hi Martyn Very well played. I enjoyed it very much. I am also a Vox VT user and agree with what you say. I did try a compressor pedal, but couldn't get on with it, and it's been gathering dust for a while. May dust it off and try again at some time. Keep up the good work, and keep submitting the recordings that give us so much pleasure. Well done
Richard
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Post by glenorchy on Jan 26, 2013 13:29:17 GMT
Superb Martyn. Look forward to hearing it live!
Duncan
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Post by martyn on Jan 26, 2013 19:26:34 GMT
Hi Richard, Glad you enjoyed it. I tinkered around with a Boss compressor pedal a while back and like you I didn't get on with it. I know Charlie's not a great fan of the compressor effect that's built into Tonelabs and (I presume) the same technology is used in the V/tronix amps. Trouble is they tend to be a tad either/or with few fine control levels or options in between. I still quite like that slight compression click at the initial strike but depending upon what I'm playing I occasionally switch it off as it can be irritating if overdone.
Hi Duncan, All being well it should be my opening track, but I have some issues with finger tip wear & tear at the moment and they're quite painful. Will just have to grin and bear it . . .
Cheers, Martyn
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