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Post by tiredmusicman57 on Jul 15, 2013 18:40:23 GMT
Hello. I intend to buy kinman 54 pickups for early shadows sounds but what would be the best strings. I know it's a personal thing but any advice as usual would be appreciated. It's a waste of time asking what the guitar is but it's fender style but made of different bits with custom shop pickups which will be for sale. Roy.
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Post by shadowtonio on Jul 16, 2013 7:17:45 GMT
hello roy, There are so many pick ups,,,,,,,,I like the 57/62ers,,,,,,,,, but here: the sliders 59, very good sound www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB8bUiHKSe8&feature=c4-overview&list=UUXjc0KlQ-0JDSTrEtO5-Skg-------------WFL---------------------------------------------------- www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKtrpPkYraI&list=UUXjc0KlQ-0JDSTrEtO5-Skgcheers, tonio
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Post by rogerbayliss on Jul 16, 2013 15:11:30 GMT
Generally a round wound string pure nickel wraps say a set of 12s . Newtone are very good strings. Also Diaddrio and Gibson L5 are good choices and DR pure blues.
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Post by tiredmusicman57 on Jul 16, 2013 17:41:23 GMT
Hi Roger.
Thanks i have heard the ddadrio(did i spell that correctly)are pretty good.
Roy
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Post by gruntfuttock on Jul 17, 2013 8:42:41 GMT
Hi Roy. I am using the Kinman's '54 Impersonator P/ups. (Which I'm very pleased with) I use the D'Addario EXL 115-3D strings. 011 - 049. Described on the packet as "Bright Round Wound" I get a reasonable early Hank sound. Regards Dave
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Post by asimmd on Jul 17, 2013 9:04:46 GMT
I don't think there are any "Best Strings",it's whatever you are happy with.
Dave is correct,I also use D'Addario EXL 115-3D strings. 011 - 049,and have done for years.
For a better early Shads sound you would probably be better trying 12/52 or 13/56,but try them all and see which you are happiest with.
Don't forget,using heavier gauge strings may need the Nut and/or Truss Rod altering. Also you will need to reset the trem springs,and the bridge height.
Alan
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Post by baz on Jul 17, 2013 9:49:35 GMT
Hi Roy...........Alan is absolutely right to warn you about changes you would need to make if you go to much heavier string gauges...... Don't forget that Tony Iommi (generally regarded as the instigator of the heavy metal riff) uses 8's !!!!!!!!!!. I 'm currently trying Rotosound stainless steel 10's on my Burns Marvin .. I'll be posting a new track in the next week or two that feature these so watch the sound file page if you want to hear the result
Regards .Baz
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Post by didier on Jul 17, 2013 14:22:45 GMT
Hello. I intend to buy kinman 54 pickups for early shadows sounds but what would be the best strings. Many people I know favor d'Addario ECG25 strings (chrome flatwound 12-52) for early Shadows sound. Didier
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Post by shadowtonio on Jul 17, 2013 14:56:00 GMT
:)hello didier, thanks for the tip. ----------------------- years ago i was using 0.11, ddario or erny ball strings. Now i am using 0.10, I gess for the 0.12 you will need some big hands ;D cheers, tonio
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Post by jetblack69 on Jul 17, 2013 18:06:22 GMT
Hi Roy,
i,m currently using "Elixir" strings 12-52,s with a wound 3rd.
I had to re-set my trem springs,adjust the the truss-rod,and widen the slots in nut with a special file gauge,i have a 1970,s re-issue Strat...get a great early Shads sound with these heavier gauge strings.
Steve
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Post by didier on Jul 18, 2013 9:21:05 GMT
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Post by shadowkarl on Jul 18, 2013 15:21:09 GMT
Hi Roy,
just my twopennies thoughts.
I use on one strat the Newtone masters NEM which you can order in England and with a variety of (NEM-ML 12-52 custom or NEM -ML 11-49 - as Hank used this gauge also) See also a thread in here.
and on the other strat it get also very good tonal results with the Golden Sixties handwound 0.010 - 0.046. Justin Daish praised them also highly.
Both sets are roundwound the NEM have a round core (like a piano string) and it is said they last longer; the Sixties are also roundwound on a hex core. (Source: vertrieb AT ssb-electronic.de)
Hope you find the right suitable strings. The only judge finally is your ears and fingers!
Regards Shadowkarl
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Post by noelford on Jul 19, 2013 17:50:52 GMT
You know what? Over many years I've used lots of different strings and I'm pretty sure that the difference to the average ear between the same gauges of the most well-known brands, is negligible. The punters at the gig would certainly not know the difference. I use mostly Elixirs these days because they sound like all the others and last a lot longer. It ain't the strings, guys, it's the way you play 'em.
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Post by shadowkarl on Jul 22, 2013 13:09:55 GMT
To Noelford,
you know possibly also that from a distance most of the strings sound quite similar. At least I do know, can hear and feel it in my fingers with A/B comparison on my two strats which strings I use. (no punters of gigs needed) Same quality of playing not only the strings, but also the guitar setup, the picks, the upstrokes the finetuning of the Meazzi and amp all needed in the sound chain to produce a decent tune with the right sound. So as I said above, it`s all in your ears and fingers! regards shadowkarl
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Post by allclaphands on Jul 22, 2013 13:24:35 GMT
Hi I must agree with Shadowkarl on this one. Pete
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Post by noelford on Jul 22, 2013 17:18:40 GMT
Sorry if I'm coming over a bit thick (it's been a hard day!), but are you both agreeing or disagreeing with what I wrote?
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Post by shadowkarl on Jul 24, 2013 7:04:14 GMT
To Noelford,
partly disagreeing, because the question from roy was our opinion about the best or better the right strings, which we have experience with and are using; and playing them properly is only one (obvious) part of it; finally the whole sound chain, must be tuned properly. .... And I emphasized, that I am mainly interested in what I use, hear and how my preferred strings are feeling with my fingers and not so much, if at all, if anybody in a gig can hear the difference. regards shadowkarl
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Post by rogerbayliss on Jul 26, 2013 16:53:49 GMT
EXL 115-3D according to what I read on the manufacturers website state that they are hex core with a nickel plated steel winding ... they are not round wound or pure nickel . Not say these are not great strings as lots of people like them... but bear in mind that the strings used back in 60s were mainly round wound cores with pure nickel wraps and have a warmer tone. I have tried nickel plated strings and find they are very bright until played in then they settle down to something like the warmer pure nickel types.
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