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Post by stratman49 on Jul 30, 2014 0:06:27 GMT
I am a great fan of the British Eagles and play several of the numbers on their 1960's album. From the cover of that album they obviously use Fender Strats and Vox amps.
Does anyone know what echo unit they used and also how they achieved that unique sound they have? Are any of the band members still active in the guitar world?
Cheers from Australia.
Adrian
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Post by sixchannel on Jul 30, 2014 10:34:17 GMT
The lead guitarist, Terry Clarke died in 2008 but I think John Payne, the rhythm guitarist is still with us.
Don't know if he still plays.
Ian
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Post by philc on Jul 30, 2014 12:09:10 GMT
There's at least four of their recordings on iTunes.
Rod Meacham died in 2002.
Phil
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Post by sheendigs on Jul 30, 2014 14:14:16 GMT
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Post by stratman49 on Jul 31, 2014 6:06:44 GMT
Thanks for your replies but no one has answered my question - what echo unit did the Eagles use - perhaps a Watkins Copicat? Sheendigs - coincidence that you mentioned Josef Wagner and his marches. Below is a link to my son Bryan playing "Under The Double Eagle" on a Strat. (Fiesta Red of course soundcloud.com/bryanbrowneau/under-the-double-eagle-demoCheers from Australia Adrian |
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Post by philc on Jul 31, 2014 6:55:16 GMT
In the early 60's I played with my first band at a very large dance hall in Bristol, i'm pretty sure the other band was the Eagles. We had cheap gear, Watkins Rapier, Dominator doubleing as a PA! etc. etc. They had Fender guitars, Vox amps/PA, but I can't remember what echo unit they had, I would guess probably a Copycat as just about everyone did in the early days, but they might have changed it by the time they were recording. Great stuff by Bryan by the way  Phil |
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Post by tedw on Sept 15, 2014 18:22:17 GMT
Well I remember seeing them perform at the Gala Ballroom in Norwich around 1961/62 and they were all playing(and I think, occasionally singing)through a Meazzi Factotum although perhaps the bass guitarist had a separate amp - can't recall as my eyes were glued on the strats.I remember this mainly because I was in a schoolboy band at the time who were half decent with cheapo guitars through Linear and RSC 30w amps plus on occasion a Dallas Scala and an Elpico (all of 5 watts.) Disillusioned, our version of Hank was also present and after this gig wanted us to purchase a Meazzi Factotum on HP but my dad refused to underwrite me! A musical career then paused for many years.
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Post by stratman49 on Sept 16, 2014 0:09:04 GMT
Hi Ted I normally play through Meazzis, both valve and solid state, as well as 1964 Strats and a Vox AC30 hand-wired amp. I still cannot get close to that Eagles sound. Something's missing !!!
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Post by alisap on Sept 16, 2014 8:00:59 GMT
I am a great fan of the British Eagles and play several of the numbers on their 1960's album. From the cover of that album they obviously use Fender Strats and Vox amps. Does anyone know what echo unit they used and also how they achieved that unique sound they have? Are any of the band members still active in the guitar world? Cheers from Australia. Adrian On the cover of 1960`s LP album"Smash Hits" band members are playing both Fender AND Vox brand guitars. regards, alisap. |
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Post by stratman49 on Sept 17, 2014 1:21:19 GMT
Alisap - good spotting! I had a look on YouTube at the cover of their vinyl album and you are right. The picture wasn't distinct but the white guitar is not a Fender. Also did you notice that the guitarist with the white guitar is using a thumbpick which would be very unusual for a rhythm guitarist. Perhaps that explains why I can't the lead guitar sound on a Strat! Does anyone know if the lead guitarist is the one playing the Vox guitar and if so, what model Vox guitar is it?
Regards from DownUnder
Adrian
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Post by philc on Sept 17, 2014 7:04:13 GMT
Which picture are you referring to as the one on YouTube "Smash hits" The Eagles" has Fender guitars, with two white Strats?
Phil
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Post by tedw on Sept 17, 2014 7:43:07 GMT
They were playing white strats when I saw them in Norwich. I don't remember the lead player using a thumb pick but it is possible. I was already aware of Chet Atkins so I think I might have noticed. Whilst they interpreted a lot of material in their own way and were a slick act, they had clearly modelled themselves on the Shadows who were the big stars at the time, and I don't think The Eagles ever made it to the big time.
With regard to the album covers, don't forget these were often studio produced with whatever gear was to hand - viz Bruce's Tele with the price tag attached on the first Shads album.
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Post by tedw on Sept 17, 2014 7:52:22 GMT
Hi Stratman, I sympathise with your frustrations on getting "the sound". Two observations: Hank will sound more like Hank on a clapped out Rosetti Solid Seven than me trying to emulate him on the finest custom shop strat. Also do not forget the very considerable art of studio mixing which significantly polishes the recorded sound - Hank has commented on this in the past.
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Post by philc on Sept 17, 2014 8:01:19 GMT
Adrian, what tune are you trying to get close to, "March of the Eagles"?
Phil
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Post by alisap on Sept 17, 2014 14:15:56 GMT
Which picture are you referring to as the one on YouTube "Smash hits" The Eagles" has Fender guitars, with two white Strats? Phil "Smash hits from the Eagles" Lp cover. The band members posing on this cover have Vox and Fender brand guitars as I have stated earlier. Two white finish Vox guitars and one fiesta red Fender. Phil, I`m very confident about it. Cheers, alisap |
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Post by philc on Sept 17, 2014 15:05:13 GMT
Yep!
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Post by sheendigs on Sept 19, 2014 2:22:20 GMT
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Post by stratman49 on Sept 19, 2014 2:53:22 GMT
Hi Sheendigs
Yes, that is the photo on the album I own. The white guitar is definitely not a Strat. Different headstock and different controls. I looked on the well known auction site but could not find a similar guitar for sale.
Also, do you think the guitarist with the white guitar uses a thumbpick?
Cheers
Adrian
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Post by stratman49 on Sept 19, 2014 2:59:30 GMT
Hi PhilC
The tunes I play from that album are :-
Stranger on the Shore Desafinado Sukiyaki Al Di La Havah Nagila
I would like to play Exodus but I haven't got a backing track for their version.
Does anyone in Shadows world have one ?
Cheers
Adrian
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Post by philc on Sept 19, 2014 7:22:34 GMT
Adrian, I had a look through my books and this is the guitar, it has the three switches and the logo above them, also the jack socket below the knobs, you can just see the bottom of the tremolo unit on the Eagles picture. The guitar they are pictured with is an earlier version of this as it hasn't got the string restraints on the headstock. As for that sound, I could only find Sukiyaki on itunes, but it shouldn't be a problem to create it with a Strat, a lot of it is to do with tremolo technique. Phil  |
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Post by erikMAMS on Sept 19, 2014 7:59:59 GMT
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Post by philc on Sept 19, 2014 8:39:20 GMT
Erik, I saw the guitar on that site this morning.
Phil
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Post by alisap on Sept 19, 2014 16:09:45 GMT
The white finish Vox branded guitar with black plastic tip trem arm is most likely a Soundcaster www.vintageguitarandbass.com/vox/Soundcaster.php Guitarist with thumbpick is playing a guitar with blank pickup covers, features found in the Vox Clubman model. Regards, alisap. |
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Post by sixchannel on Sept 19, 2014 16:36:03 GMT
Hi PhilC The tunes I play from that album are :- Stranger on the Shore Desafinado Sukiyaki Al Di La Havah Nagila I would like to play Exodus but I haven't got a backing track for their version. Does anyone in Shadows world have one ? Cheers Adrian Check out "Shadows Workout 17" for Exodus. Cheers ian |
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