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Post by tiredmusicman57 on Nov 16, 2014 14:12:26 GMT
Hello. I have been offered this usa strat serial number N7317273 with lace sensor hotgold pickups in candy apple red.Guitar is in excellent condtion price £600. Would appreciate any help as to the value. Roy  |
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Post by strat21 on Nov 16, 2014 14:57:46 GMT
If the original case is with it,£600 is a fair price for what I think is a STRAT plus,although I am not as expert as some on this site.The chrome flick switch,do you know what it is for?.I personly do not like guitars that have been "modded" usually,but if it is to have P.U 1 and 3 on at the same time,like the Marvin then I think it would be acceptable ,to me anyway.There is a similar guitar on the well known auction site at this moment in time for £750,without a case,so a good buy ,as Strat Plus guitars are under valued in my opinion.Good quality American guitars at bargain prices.
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Post by tiredmusicman57 on Nov 16, 2014 15:01:37 GMT
Hello.
Thanks for reply.The switch i believe is original with these pickups as it switches between the 2 rear pickups but i feel sure someone here will explain better.
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Post by strat21 on Nov 16, 2014 15:14:23 GMT
I have never seen a mod of this nature on a Strat before,however Fender are a law unto themselves,sometimes to their own detriment.I think the guitar is the same as a friend of mines,same configuration of pick ups and controls apart from the switch.His guitar is possibly the best player I have tried,and in a 50 plus year addiction,I have tried loads.I have tried to buy it loads of times,but he loves it too.I personly think it is an addition,perhaps others on the site can say for sure
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 15:22:41 GMT
it seem a very good price to me for a us strat . i personaly dont like humbuckers i know there great for playing rock music with some over drive i use to be into that stuff .but i prefer strats with 3 single coils for that clean 50s 60s rockabilly twang. but anyway a beautiful guitar mate .go for it Richie
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Post by Charlie Hall on Nov 16, 2014 15:26:50 GMT
It looks like someone's take on the Strat Ultra. The Ultra was the first Strat model with cast saddles that had a softer radius as the earlier ones had a sharper radius that caused string breakages. Although I cannot see too clearly in that pic, I suspect the saddles are the earlier ones with a sharper radius. They could probably be swapped easily enough.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by strat21 on Nov 16, 2014 15:52:55 GMT
I stand corrected,it does look like a Strat Ultra,something I have not encountered before.However,a quick look on Xhefri,s guitars and one pops up with flick switch,but sited below the second tone pot not above,nearly in line with the 3 way.However hairsplitting part still a good guitar at a good price.If you don't want it tell him to advertise on Charlies site,and maybe if I can sacrifice to the god called She who must be obeyed, I can have it for Christmas
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Post by sixchannel on Nov 16, 2014 15:59:55 GMT
Maybe the switch is a coil tap?
Just an observation - has this guitar been properly set-up? The bridge saddles positions look too neat apart from E string saddle which is way forward of the others.
Ian
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Post by strat21 on Nov 16, 2014 16:11:53 GMT
Hi Ian if you look on Xhefri site on the web,the switch seems to be Fenders answer to the Holy Grail.The only thing it doesn't do is make the tea.I would now really like to see one of theses guitars and try it out, to see if its as versatile as they say .Still,a lot of what I would call the serious pro,s who play Strats,a good proportion play Plus,s .
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Post by noelford on Nov 16, 2014 16:15:40 GMT
I agree with Ian – the saddle positions don't look right and I'd be surprised if the intonation was correct set up like that. Easily, sorted, of course. I'm not familiar with these Strats but again, like Ian, I would guess the switch could be a coil-tap for the bridge humbucker.
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Post by peterbower on Nov 16, 2014 16:21:19 GMT
Does it have a roller nut?
Peter
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 16:41:48 GMT
any chance of a full vue of the hole strat back n front mate??
richie
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 16:42:38 GMT
Looks like someone has swapped out the original pickguard for a S/S/H alternative....micro switch will probably short out one coil of the HB to give a conventional 3 pickup single coil guitar....bridge saddles all need re setting with an electronic tuner.....£600 is about average but not a bargain....personally speaking there are so many used Fenders out there I would look for a standard 3 single coil model.....unless this really takes your fancy.....also Lace Sensors are not the best pickups of all those that are fitted by Fender.....£499....and it's a yes please....£600 is a ....well I'll think about it.....
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Post by tiredmusicman57 on Nov 16, 2014 17:06:28 GMT
any chance of a full vue of the hole strat back n front mate?? richie Hi Richie. Yes not had much time today but will sort soon. Roy |
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Post by tiredmusicman57 on Nov 16, 2014 17:10:38 GMT
Maybe the switch is a coil tap? Just an observation - has this guitar been properly set-up? The bridge saddles positions look too neat apart from E string saddle which is way forward of the others. Ian Hello. Doubt it has been set up at all it was in a friends wardrobe and he forgot about till he saw the case and thought hello whats this. Roy |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 17:21:14 GMT
any chance of a full vue of the hole strat back n front mate?? richie Hi Richie. Yes not had much time today but will sort soon. Roy hi roy ok mate richie |
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Post by loujones12 on Nov 16, 2014 17:52:35 GMT
You may want to re check SERIAL Number. it doesn't look right 7digits  ?. as far as I know never more than 6. check out my Sticky post in General. Re fender Serial Numbers. the post is from FENDER. Lou |
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Post by Steve Reynolds on Nov 16, 2014 18:19:10 GMT
It's a 1997 Strat plus or strat ultra. Looks all original to me, I prefer the smoother saddles on these to the early ones, don't hurt your hands when muting
Edit tell a lie, i wonder if the pickguard has been changed as they were originally cut around the 2 lace sensors in the bridge position, this one is a generic cut and also the switch location is different. It could stil be one, the nut would give it away if it's an lsr roller nut.
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Post by tiredmusicman57 on Nov 16, 2014 18:34:37 GMT
You may want to re check SERIAL Number. it doesn't look right 7digits ?. as far as I know never more than 6. check out my Sticky post in General. Re fender Serial Numbers. the post is from FENDER. Lou Hi Lou. No its a large N large 7 then the 6 digits. |
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Post by tiredmusicman57 on Nov 16, 2014 18:36:01 GMT
Thank you for the response so far its certainly a learning curve for me but there again what better place.
Roy
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Post by philc on Nov 16, 2014 20:41:33 GMT
Looks like that top E is an F  Phil |
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Post by sixchannel on Nov 16, 2014 20:47:59 GMT
You may want to re check SERIAL Number. it doesn't look right 7digits ?. as far as I know never more than 6. check out my Sticky post in General. Re fender Serial Numbers. the post is from FENDER. Lou Hi Lou. No its a large N large 7 then the 6 digits. From Fender U.S site - www.fender.com/en-GB/support/articles/u-s-instruments-product-dating/N6 + 6 or 6 digits N7 + 5 or 6 digitsV + 5 or 6 v (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster) 1997 so it looks OK serial number wise. Its 14 years old. Ian |
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Post by allclaphands on Nov 17, 2014 8:45:36 GMT
From the history of the Fender Stratocaster Book American made Stratocasters: N5 + 5/6 digits 1995–96 N6 + 5/6 digits 1996–97 N7 + 5/6 digits 1997–98 N8 + 5/6 digits 1998–99 N9 + 5/6 digits 1999–2000 DZ0 + 5/6 digits 2000 Z0 + 5/6 digits 2000–01 DZ1 + 5/6 digits 2001 Z1 + 5/6 digits 2001–02 DZ2 + 5/6 digits 2002 Z2 + 5/6 digits 2002–03 DZ3 + 5/6 digits 2003 Z3+ 5/6 digits 2003–04 DZ4 + 5/6 digits 2004 Z4 + 5/6 digits 2004–05 DZ5 + 5/6 digits 2005 Z5 + 5/6 digits 2005–06 So with N7 + 5/6 digits 1997-98 Looks very much like a Strat Ultra which might have been modded with the switch for the bridge pups Pete |
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Post by frankmarvin on Nov 17, 2014 11:31:11 GMT
Yes Noel, it looked like the intonation is set way off ,
Frank
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Post by frankmarvin on Nov 17, 2014 11:35:33 GMT
Also the Humbuckers look like a round peg in a square hole i.e. ; they fit like a sock on a chickens lip Frank: |
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Post by frankmarvin on Nov 17, 2014 11:35:43 GMT
Also the Humbuckers look like a round peg in a square hole i.e. ; they fit like a sock on a chickens lip Frank: |
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Post by frankmarvin on Nov 17, 2014 11:36:44 GMT
oops sorry, clicked twice.
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Post by kipper on Nov 17, 2014 14:38:03 GMT
my opinion in answer to the question is its not a high price and its not a bargain price, its nothing worth getting excited about price, its about the asking price for this guitar whatever it turns out to be. as some one has already said if it were £350 - £400 ok. peter
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Post by baz on Nov 17, 2014 16:00:46 GMT
Hi ....I assume from your opening line that you are somewhere close (geographically)to the vendor........unless you are hoping that this might prove a good investment it comes down to how it sounds and what its like to play...........if you're not sure yourself ,have you got an experienced colleague who could try it and give you a second opinion..........giutars are fundamentally about how they feel and play..........if they look good as well then that's a bonus.......if it was all about appearances, Martin wouldn't sell many of their mid range acoustics.....if you like it then and only then does the price enter the equation (IMHO)
Regards
Baz
PS. I'm also with the others that say £600 is not an bargain price
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Post by tiredmusicman57 on Nov 18, 2014 10:05:28 GMT
Thanks to everyone who replied and I have decided to give it a miss. Also my guitar built from this and that but with kinman impersonator 54's sounds much better anyhow. One thing though string muting is so much easier.
Roy
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?. as far as I know never more than 6. check out my Sticky post in General. Re fender Serial Numbers. the post is from FENDER. Lou
