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Post by timryland on Nov 30, 2014 14:35:16 GMT
Just wondering what members home setups are for practising to backing tracks?
I currently use a Vox DA5. Backing tracks come out of a PC into the AuxIn on the amp. I take the headphones out from the DA5 into a pair of powered speakers.
The reason for the question is that I am thinking of upgrading to a VT20+, and realise with the same set-up it bypasses the power amp stage, so may loose some of the warmth of the amp.
I was considering backing track into mixer and mic'ing up the amp into the mixer, then out to the speakers.
Any thoughts,
Tim.
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Post by Viv on Nov 30, 2014 15:07:17 GMT
Just wondering what members home setups are for practising to backing tracks? I currently use a Vox DA5. Backing tracks come out of a PC into the AuxIn on the amp. I take the headphones out from the DA5 into a pair of powered speakers. The reason for the question is that I am thinking of upgrading to a VT20+, and realise with the same set-up it bypasses the power amp stage, so may loose some of the warmth of the amp. I was considering backing track into mixer and mic'ing up the amp into the mixer, then out to the speakers. Any thoughts, Tim. For a quick practice I play back tracks through my home music center via memory stick otherwise through a Marshall acoustic amp.
I had a VT40+ and backing tracks sounded awful through it.
Your last option above would work the best for you except I would simply put the amp close to the mixer speakers without mic'ing it.
Cheers
Viv
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Post by timryland on Nov 30, 2014 16:30:20 GMT
Viv,
Thanks for the reply. What did you think of your VT40+.
Tim.
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Post by Viv on Nov 30, 2014 16:44:08 GMT
Viv, Thanks for the reply. What did you think of your VT40+. Tim. Hi Tim, I was not happy at all with the VT40+ hence I now own an AC30 C2 but then I do gigs as well.
Others here seem to like the Vox AC4 which is an all valve amp. I hope somebody else here will give more opinion on this one.
The VT40+ is a solid state with only one valve. Also have a look how many VT's are being sold on the internet - this should tell you the whole story.
Cheers
Viv
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Post by tiredmusicman57 on Nov 30, 2014 17:38:07 GMT
Hello. I had the new vox vt20 last year and lets just say I don't have it now. Not what there cracked up to be at all. I now use a Focusrite interface(doubles as my pc sound card) into active speakers with my yamaha magicstomp with eftp patches and it it so much better. Hope this helps. Roy
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Post by timryland on Nov 30, 2014 17:53:15 GMT
One thing I probably should mention is that this isn't mainly for Shadows songs, I play a lot of classic rock/blues as well, so I'm not just looking to emulate Shadows/Hanks sound.
Tim.
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Post by Viv on Nov 30, 2014 18:09:54 GMT
One thing I probably should mention is that this isn't mainly for Shadows songs, I play a lot of classic rock/blues as well, so I'm not just looking to emulate Shadows/Hanks sound. Tim. This may help you decide.
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Post by noelford on Nov 30, 2014 18:36:32 GMT
This is my set up for both home and for gigs: iPad with JamUp Pro into Bose L1 Compact amp (at home I use either Headphones or Bose).
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Post by timryland on Nov 30, 2014 19:26:23 GMT
Hi Noel,
Yes, I use JamUp on my iPad quite a bit. I'm just looking to upgrade my analogue setup I leave permanently connected upstairs.
Tim.
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Post by Steve Reynolds on Nov 30, 2014 19:40:58 GMT
I use a korg ax3000g that has an aux in for iPods etc and I plug the guitar in to it and use the amp simulations etc and then output to either headphones or studio monitors, nice and simple korgs can be picked up for about £50
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Post by specky on Dec 1, 2014 1:17:26 GMT
Viv, Thanks for the reply. What did you think of your VT40+. Tim. Hi Tim, I was not happy at all with the VT40+ hence I now own an AC30 C2 but then I do gigs as well.
Others here seem to like the Vox AC4 which is an all valve amp. I hope somebody else here will give more opinion on this one.
The VT40+ is a solid state with only one valve. Also have a look how many VT's are being sold on the internet - this should tell you the whole story.
Cheers
Viv
I disagree with you there Viv I use a VT40+ and I think its a great amp -I use it with my Burns Cobra -which I prefer over a Strat for live work-and I have been a Strat man all my gigging life- The Vox amp small in stature maybe -but the power and tone is there -give it a chance -may sound at times a little boxey behind you but it does it's job --only drawback I will say is dont touch the tone controls while working or it seems to shag the whole settings up = great value for money and compact -well compared to the Peavey 100 chorus I used to struggle around with It's a minefild out there tho' amp wise recording wise is a totally different story. I'm happy with Strat (blue or white)G2 peadal(with Charlies EFTP on it) and my Boss Br 600 I will leave recording techniques to those more qualified than me regards Tommy
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Post by timryland on Dec 1, 2014 8:40:14 GMT
Thanks for all the replies. Having trawled the internet for info about the VT20+, it seems they can suffer from a chronic hiss problem.
May need to look round for something different. Ideally looking for small (20w) amp that can do good fender, vox and marshall tones.
Back to the internet, and local music shops I think.
Tim.
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Post by tuftyrock on Dec 1, 2014 11:11:48 GMT
hi i can recommend the vox ac4 either the ac4tv or the ac4c1 both great amps but the ac4c1 is a little more versatile because of the gain, bass and treble controls it also comes in some very cool colours and they are just the right size and volume for a home set up. my son has a fender mustang 40 and that is a great amp but you need to use the fender fuse software to get the best results . it has a good ac30 sim and has some great fender sims and some higher gain sims. but as i said you need to tinker with the tone using the fuse software. stay away from the vt40+ i tried one and sent it back and they sent two further replacements all three suffered from a loud hissing noise even at low volumes. regards garry
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Post by timryland on Dec 1, 2014 19:57:42 GMT
Have just seen that Line6 have released the Amplifi TT. I had previously looked at the Amplifi 75, but didn't need that much power (or cost). It looks like the Amplifi TT might be just what I'm looking for.
Tim.
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Post by godzilla on Dec 1, 2014 22:53:44 GMT
...................stay away from the vt40+ i tried one and sent it back and they sent two further replacements all three suffered from a loud hissing noise even at low volumes. regards garry tuftyrock, I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the VT40+, but I have found mine to be perfect for my needs, compared to a few other modelling amps I've tried. I find it very versatile and although it can't compare to a fully valve amp (I also have an AC4TV 10inch), it has the advantage of having a headphone socket and aux input for BTs. As well as getting a close approximation to old Hank sound, I also use it for blues, hard rock and most early 60s pop. I am pleased to say I have not had the loud hissing you mention. My current home setup is Jap Signature Strat (1996), Behringer EQ700, Magicstomp with EFTP, Cutting Edge Filter and VT40+. BTs are on MP3 Player feeding into the VT40+ Aux Input. I have not yet seriously tried recording, I usually play live for my own enjoyment and sometimes for the family & friends. Cheers all Keith
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Post by George Lewis on Dec 2, 2014 5:53:33 GMT
Hi Tim, Investigating all the possibilities, methods, amps, simulators etc etc is fascinating and interesting in it's own right. It can be expensive, but if that is not a big factor ... go for it. Like Noel and many others I no longer use a guitar amp. For the range of guitar sounds required, I find a Korg AX3G Amp simulator, EFTP Magicstomp, and Huawei Tablet through a Bose L1 PA just the ticket for gigs. At home, for recording and practicing, the setup is the same, except BT's are played on the PC and they and the Korg Sim go into a set of very modest Behringer MS20 powered speakers. This allows great flexibility and enough volume when necessary to give the "loud sound" adrenaline factor when recording or practising tunes that need that kind of excitement. Mind you I also often play BT's via the speakers (fairly low volume) with Strat unplugged as this is a good way to develop the robust pick-attack required for some of Hank's tunes ! As the old American detective TV series (The Naked City) used to say ... "There are a million stories in the city ... this has been one of them." Regards George
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