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Post by scanners on Dec 17, 2014 4:30:28 GMT
I was wondering about the TVS echo, by the looks it needs another host unit to run it does anyone know? Not that I plan on getting one, but it's even more over priced at over $3000 if it needs a host unit to run it. I'll wait for the Hall and Collins
Matthew
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Post by George Lewis on Dec 17, 2014 5:22:10 GMT
Hi Matthew, The latest TVS3 needs no host and is fully self contained. It only needs an amp, guitar and decent player with fairly deep pockets.  Please visit the TVS site where you will find first hand information (and a lot more) and can contact the developers if necessary. The Home of TVSregards George |
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Post by scanners on Dec 17, 2014 7:34:49 GMT
thanks George
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Post by shadowkarl on Dec 17, 2014 10:29:27 GMT
Same opinion as Matthew
since i first heard about the Hall Collins pedal. And only because Mr. Marvin is lately using it (probably also because of the Australian neighborhood) I certainly will not buy a TVS3.
Shadowkarl
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Post by George Lewis on Dec 17, 2014 11:10:29 GMT
Hi Karl,
Perhaps it's the English translation but I'm not sure what your point is.
I would love to be in the position of wondering whether to buy a TVS3 or not !!
Seems to me John and Charlie's new pedal will be irresistible for many of us.
Cheers
George
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Post by fender7 on Dec 17, 2014 11:42:54 GMT
Id be very interested to hear how Charlie would compare the new unit to the tvs3.I certainly wouldn't expect him to say it would leave it standing in terms of spec, and out of respect to Spike Paul and Gary,but it would be nice to think it could match it in his opinion.
There's no doubt the tvs3 is a fantastic unit...and i have nothing but admiration for the tvs3 team.I'm going to a friends house next week to play through one,but no matter how good it is,I'm afraid $4000 odd dollars is way more than id pay for any echo box...We only paid slightly more than that for our FOH active jbl speakers lol.
Again..i am not asking anyone to slate anybody ,or any unit.Both units are/will be fantastic.I think Charlie has had his fair share of headaches and idiots lately.
respectfully....Steve
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Post by sixchannel on Dec 17, 2014 12:08:38 GMT
As I haven't seen a single "piccy" of the H&C unit (and I wonder why) I have to assume that the reference to it being a "pedal" means just that - its not a rack mounted unit - and that puts it out for me.
And the TVS is just too heavy for my pocket.
Ian
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Post by bill on Dec 17, 2014 12:21:15 GMT
Hi Steve and all,
As already said by George, if you want to know about the TVS3 the place to ask is on their website. Charlie deliberately does not look at any other echo units. His programmes and the new Hall & Collins unit are created from first principles without any knowledge of other units. He is therefore not in a position to compare the Hall & Collins with any other unit.
Bill
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Post by Cruachan on Dec 17, 2014 12:30:13 GMT
As I haven't seen a single "piccy" of the H&C unit (and I wonder why) I have to assume that the reference to it being a "pedal" means just that - its not a rack mounted unit - and that puts it out for me. And the TVS is just too heavy for my pocket. Ian Why? I have my Boss BCB-60 Pedalboard, with the Magicstomp placed in the centre, sitting on a shelf right beside me. I use my fingers instead of my feet to change patches or configurations. Works well if you are a 'bedroom' player. Also, the LCD display is much easier to read Mike |
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Post by fender7 on Dec 17, 2014 12:36:02 GMT
Bill..i do not need to know anything regarding the tvs3 thanks..I think creating a unit without a/b ing others is probably the best way to do it thinking about. it. I'm sure Charlie is knowledgeable and confident in his own ability to achieve what were all looking for without searching other products. I for one am looking forward to the new H&C unit,and i would have preferred a rack mount also,tho this will not put me off a stomp-box. It just means a bit more tap dancing for me before i go down the midi route  . All the best....Steve |
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Post by sixchannel on Dec 17, 2014 13:07:05 GMT
As I haven't seen a single "piccy" of the H&C unit (and I wonder why) I have to assume that the reference to it being a "pedal" means just that - its not a rack mounted unit - and that puts it out for me. And the TVS is just too heavy for my pocket. Ian Why? I have my Boss BCB-60 Pedalboard, with the Magicstomp placed in the centre, sitting on a shelve right beside me. I use my fingers instead of my feet to change patches or configurations. Works well if you are a 'bedroom' player. Also, the LCD display is much easier to read Mike Food for thought, Mike I use a BCB-30 (the three-holer)for my Radio, Compressor and Overdrive pedals for any gigging work with my two EFTP units in a 2U rack and didnt want anything like a Korg Toneworks huge thing clogging up my "floor workspace" with all its extra mains, leads etc to worry about . Thats why I would have liked to see what KIND of pedal it is going to be - a Behemoth or a Magicstomp size. cheers ian |
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Post by keithinalps on Dec 17, 2014 15:35:52 GMT
Why? I have my Boss BCB-60 Pedalboard, with the Magicstomp placed in the centre, sitting on a shelve right beside me. I use my fingers instead of my feet to change patches or configurations. Works well if you are a 'bedroom' player. Also, the LCD display is much easier to read Mike Food for thought, Mike I use a BCB-30 (the three-holer)for my Radio, Compressor and Overdrive pedals for any gigging work with my two EFTP units in a 2U rack and didnt want anything like a Korg Toneworks huge thing clogging up my "floor workspace" with all its extra mains, leads etc to worry about . Thats why I would have liked to see what KIND of pedal it is going to be - a Behemoth or a Magicstomp size. cheers ian I tried the prototype H&C unit 3 yrs ago and it was similar size as a Magicstomp. |
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 17, 2014 18:04:26 GMT
As I haven't seen a single "piccy" of the H&C unit (and I wonder why) I have to assume that the reference to it being a "pedal" means just that - its not a rack mounted unit - and that puts it out for me. And the TVS is just too heavy for my pocket. Ian Hi Ian, There is no photo because a finished unit that correctly represents the production model does not yet exist. That should change very soon. Regards, Charlie |
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 17, 2014 18:06:10 GMT
Id be very interested to hear how Charlie would compare the new unit to the tvs3.I certainly wouldn't expect him to say it would leave it standing in terms of spec, and out of respect to Spike Paul and Gary,but it would be nice to think it could match it in his opinion. There's no doubt the tvs3 is a fantastic unit...and i have nothing but admiration for the tvs3 team.I'm going to a friends house next week to play through one,but no matter how good it is,I'm afraid $4000 odd dollars is way more than id pay for any echo box...We only paid slightly more than that for our FOH active jbl speakers lol. Again..i am not asking anyone to slate anybody ,or any unit.Both units are/will be fantastic.I think Charlie has had his fair share of headaches and idiots lately. respectfully....Steve If I am allowed an opinion at all why should I be restricted to saying it is equal? Something not quite right here, it seems like I am being censored on my own site. Anything I don't say will certainly be out of respect for the TVS team but perhaps the Hall & Collins will speak for itself. Don't get me started, please. Everything is fine right now. Regards, Charlie |
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 17, 2014 18:14:27 GMT
Food for thought, Mike I use a BCB-30 (the three-holer)for my Radio, Compressor and Overdrive pedals for any gigging work with my two EFTP units in a 2U rack and didnt want anything like a Korg Toneworks huge thing clogging up my "floor workspace" with all its extra mains, leads etc to worry about . Thats why I would have liked to see what KIND of pedal it is going to be - a Behemoth or a Magicstomp size. cheers ian I tried the prototype H&C unit 3 yrs ago and it was similar size as a Magicstomp. Hi Keith, The production model is quite a lot larger. The larger board inside helped to improve the performance. Regards, Charlie |
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Post by sixchannel on Dec 17, 2014 20:25:31 GMT
I tried the prototype H&C unit 3 yrs ago and it was similar size as a Magicstomp. Hi Keith, The production model is quite a lot larger. The larger board inside helped to improve the performance. Regards, Charlie Hi Charlie Wish it'd do the same for mine!!!  cheers ian |
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Post by fender7 on Dec 17, 2014 22:29:15 GMT
Dont know if that came across wrong there Charlie.I for one will hope its better...and im sure it will speak for itself too. Cheers. ..Steve
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 17, 2014 22:52:28 GMT
Hi Steve,
I think it did, don't worry, I just didn't want anyone to misunderstand what was said.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by frankmarvin on Dec 17, 2014 23:41:01 GMT
Charlie has made it clear from the start that it is not a rack mounted unit, also I have only ever heard him compare its performance to units that HE has programmed, leaving comparisons with OTHER units for others to make .
Regards, Frank.
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Post by shadowkarl on Dec 18, 2014 9:59:14 GMT
Hi George
It was not the Translation, but an abbreviated Argument.
No matter if that TVS 3 unit Needs a host or not I would not buy this unit because of Price Level and as I also have tested it once in Germany. I am still satisfied with my Q20 and the Quad GT with EFTP patches.
The Price Level of the TVS3 is certainly influenced by the endorsement of HBM, (and it is also more accessible to HBM as Rossiter lives and produces in Australia, where Hank lives)
The Price range of the Q20 was also higher when first sold when HBM stlll used it on his Shows. (I have the experience, that now it is difficult to sell the Q20 with the patches at the well known auction site)
So I am still waiting for the new H/C pedal when it Comes out early next year.
Better now?
shadowkarl
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Post by George Lewis on Dec 18, 2014 10:29:37 GMT
Hi Karl, Yes thanks, now I understand what you were saying. It certainly was abbreviated. Interesting but not surprising that the Alesis units are proving difficult to sell even with legitimate EFTP. George |
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Post by rjanuarsa on Dec 19, 2014 3:59:10 GMT
I don't think the price of tvs3 is influenced by Hank's endorsement. I think the price was already at this level even before Hank used the echo unit.
It is the most authentic and best sounding echo unit today, on par with Vox Long Tom and other good Meazzis. I know I have both to compare.
Regards,
Robby
From NSW
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. All the best....Steve
