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Post by glyderslead on Jul 5, 2015 19:58:05 GMT
What? do I hear you all say, what are ABBA doing on our site???
Well, there is much information on here about how to get close to "that sound" produced by the Shadows, but I've always thought, love them or loathe them, that ABBA had a special sparkle to the sound on their tracks.
Was this just my imagination; or was there really something "special" about the way their music was recorded?
If there were recording "tricks" was there anything of use to us?
There, I've said it.
Just a thought
Mick
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Post by andyj47 on Jul 5, 2015 20:54:10 GMT
dont know if this has anything to do with it but i remember reading somewhere that their manager was the spotnicks manager prior to getting abba on his books smart career move or what cheers andy
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Post by Charlie Hall on Jul 5, 2015 21:47:04 GMT
I always thought their records were excellent productions and recordings. Not sure there are any secrets to be had but anything is useful!
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by brightcaster on Jul 6, 2015 6:27:42 GMT
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Post by knockoutrock on Jul 6, 2015 6:44:51 GMT
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Post by Jono on Jul 6, 2015 8:39:27 GMT
The 'Special Sound' produced by ABBA was deliberately done by de-tuning the piano & keyboards,.
If only it was as easy to produce 'That Sound' that we try for.
Hope this helps.
Jono
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Post by lucky7 on Jul 6, 2015 11:39:32 GMT
Hi Everyone,
I have found that de-tuning, by a 2cents and recording on one track, then tune up by 2cents and recording on another track, then play them back together and you get... I think its called enharmonic sound. This is similar to a chorus effect with too much depth. I have found that a one cent deviation, up and down, is plenty. If you do this with a voice you will know how Phil Collins gets his voice sound by moving the tracks by milliseconds apart. As for the old trick of taking the recording out to the car, you can't do better than use all the playback machines you can i.e. you're hi-fi, a portable disc player as the sound will vary on all of these you can then adjust accordingly for the final mix.
The important thing is to experiment, have fun and enjoy!
All the Best, Ivan.
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Post by bor64 on Jul 6, 2015 12:05:36 GMT
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Post by knockoutrock on Jul 6, 2015 12:17:06 GMT
Hi ! What Michael Tretow did was he wrapped some tape around the capstan on the tape player in order to get some detune/wobble effect on the piano. Then mix one channel piano with and one channel without the tape on the capstan.  Leif |
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Post by glyderslead on Jul 6, 2015 14:34:43 GMT
Hello everyone, thank you for your replies and for the information you have passed on.
And yes, as Jono says - if only it was a matter of playing a little out of tune for us to achieve "that sound"!!!
One thing is for sure, the next time our rhythm guitarist says I'm a little out of tune I can truthfully say "no I'm not, I'm going for the big sparkly sound......."
In truth, I really had not been aware of the amount of processing done to ABBA's recordings to make them sound so good. Of course we must not forget the work of the arrangers. So thank you for your input.
Cheers
Mick
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Post by glyderslead on Jul 6, 2015 22:35:56 GMT
I have just played the links given by David, Leif and Rob again and on second viewing (& listening) I now have an even greater understanding of how ABBA achieved their brilliant sound. So, thank you again gent's.
I wonder how many of the techniques used have translated into the guitar world?
Mick
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Post by scanners on Jul 7, 2015 1:40:04 GMT
A lot of great guitar playing on them by Bjorn
Matt
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