Post by Cruachan on Jul 10, 2015 14:30:01 GMT
"Really, Dad? You know I've tried ever so hard to achieve 'those sounds' yet I'm still not quite there. Yes, you got me the Vox Mini5, which is great, but I want to hear those same sounds enhanced by my fabulous Roxlut using Charlie and John's amazing Hall & Collins Signature Echo unit (H&CSE). It's close, but it just ain't happening."
"Okay, okay Son, give it a rest, I think I may have found a way. You know I've been experimenting with your Roxlut in combination with the Caline CP-24 10 Band Equalizer and also, more recently, the Joyo ACTone. Each delivers in its own way: the Caline CP-24 works quite well with the H&CSE and the Roxlut. Likewise the ACTone does a good job when used with the H&CSE and the Vox Mini5, but for some reason performs less well with the Roxlut. However, the downside will always be that irresistible temptation to keep twiddling knobs and moving sliders. So, I decided to adopt a more logical approach and this I have outlined below. I hope you will agree that this could be a much more satisfactory solution."
Signal Chain:
Guitar -> Boss FV-500H -> Tc Electronic Polytune -> Hall & Collins Signature Echo -> Caline CP-24 10 Band Equalizer -> Joyo ACTone -> ROXLUT
Settings:
Caline 10 Band EQ
Gain ................... 0dB
31.25 Hz ............ -12dB
62.5 Hz .............. -12dB
125 Hz ............... 0dB
250 Hz ............... 0dB
500 Hz ............... 0dB
1 KHz ................ 0dB
2 KHz ................ 0dB
4 KHz ................ 0dB
8 KHz ................ -12dB
16 KHz .............. -12dB
Joyo ACTone
Low: 9 o'clock
Mid: 3 o'clock
High: 9 o'clock
Level: 12 o'clock
Voice : 12 o'clock
Drive: 9 o'clock
"Wow, Dad, that's definitely the core sound I've been searching for! I'm using the Roxlut's Normal Channel Input 1 (full sensitivity), set the Tone control to 10 (Max treble - on the Roxlut the tonal range 10-12 works similar to Vox treble cut) and Volume at 2 which is plenty high enough (i.e. quite loud) for my music room."
"You're welcome, Son. Can you see what has been done?"
"Yep, sure can. You've used the Caline for Bass and Treble cut and the ACTone to boost the Mids with some additional tickling of the lower and higher frequencies. I find lifting the Drive control above 9 o'clock is not really desirable as some distortion is introduced. Others using this configuration may have to adjust the Level control to suit their playing environment. Oh, and one final thing: there does still appear to be subtle but important differences to the tonal quality of sound as dictated by my choice of guitar and their pickups. The core sound is always there using this arrangement but instrument selection is likely to assist in determining how close you want to be to those original, some say, magical sounds."
"Yes, Son, I think you are probably right. Also Amps with Bass and Middle controls may have to be set up in such a way to avoid destroying the emulated VOX signal. The best positions may be the 'sweet' spots arrived at by sweeping each control back and forth until you home in on a point where a played note just starts to take on some tonal colour. I confess I'm not sure about this, but seems reasonable. Others reading this may care to comment."
"Thanks Dad, much appreciated"
Note: This conversation was 'overheard' and 'transcribed' by me, Mike. Thought you might enjoy reading it
"Okay, okay Son, give it a rest, I think I may have found a way. You know I've been experimenting with your Roxlut in combination with the Caline CP-24 10 Band Equalizer and also, more recently, the Joyo ACTone. Each delivers in its own way: the Caline CP-24 works quite well with the H&CSE and the Roxlut. Likewise the ACTone does a good job when used with the H&CSE and the Vox Mini5, but for some reason performs less well with the Roxlut. However, the downside will always be that irresistible temptation to keep twiddling knobs and moving sliders. So, I decided to adopt a more logical approach and this I have outlined below. I hope you will agree that this could be a much more satisfactory solution."
Signal Chain:
Guitar -> Boss FV-500H -> Tc Electronic Polytune -> Hall & Collins Signature Echo -> Caline CP-24 10 Band Equalizer -> Joyo ACTone -> ROXLUT
Settings:
Caline 10 Band EQ
Gain ................... 0dB
31.25 Hz ............ -12dB
62.5 Hz .............. -12dB
125 Hz ............... 0dB
250 Hz ............... 0dB
500 Hz ............... 0dB
1 KHz ................ 0dB
2 KHz ................ 0dB
4 KHz ................ 0dB
8 KHz ................ -12dB
16 KHz .............. -12dB
Joyo ACTone
Low: 9 o'clock
Mid: 3 o'clock
High: 9 o'clock
Level: 12 o'clock
Voice : 12 o'clock
Drive: 9 o'clock
"Wow, Dad, that's definitely the core sound I've been searching for! I'm using the Roxlut's Normal Channel Input 1 (full sensitivity), set the Tone control to 10 (Max treble - on the Roxlut the tonal range 10-12 works similar to Vox treble cut) and Volume at 2 which is plenty high enough (i.e. quite loud) for my music room."
"You're welcome, Son. Can you see what has been done?"
"Yep, sure can. You've used the Caline for Bass and Treble cut and the ACTone to boost the Mids with some additional tickling of the lower and higher frequencies. I find lifting the Drive control above 9 o'clock is not really desirable as some distortion is introduced. Others using this configuration may have to adjust the Level control to suit their playing environment. Oh, and one final thing: there does still appear to be subtle but important differences to the tonal quality of sound as dictated by my choice of guitar and their pickups. The core sound is always there using this arrangement but instrument selection is likely to assist in determining how close you want to be to those original, some say, magical sounds."
"Yes, Son, I think you are probably right. Also Amps with Bass and Middle controls may have to be set up in such a way to avoid destroying the emulated VOX signal. The best positions may be the 'sweet' spots arrived at by sweeping each control back and forth until you home in on a point where a played note just starts to take on some tonal colour. I confess I'm not sure about this, but seems reasonable. Others reading this may care to comment."
"Thanks Dad, much appreciated"
Note: This conversation was 'overheard' and 'transcribed' by me, Mike. Thought you might enjoy reading it
