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Post by cainy on May 10, 2017 20:32:05 GMT
Hi All, a while ago I bought a Long Tom from here and I have had nothing but problems since, please, please can any body help me to find somebody who can fix my Long Tom, the echo no longer works and before that it was weak, I was not told of the problems it had but bought it on good faith, I would be grateful if anybody on here can help me.
Many thanks for any replies I may get, B Caine.
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Post by barryg on May 10, 2017 21:45:46 GMT
Hi Cainy, Before you sending it off for repair do some basic checks first as it could be a simple problem that can occur on tape echo machines. Remove the tape and clean all the tape heads with Isopropyl Alcohol and also the posts the tape runs around. Run the machine without a tape to ensure it's running properly and if it is fit a new tape of the correct length carefully and try it out again.
This may be obvious but have you adjusted and pulled out the control knobs of the channels you're using to set it up when using the echo? If you need any instructions I can send you a Vox data sheet.
If it still doesn't work there may be a problem with a capacitor or similar electrical fault which is easily fixed by an engineer.
Have you spoken to the person you bought the machine from for an explanation?
Barry
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LONG TOM
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Post by Steve Reynolds on May 10, 2017 22:11:15 GMT
Amanda Hambridge is the person you need to speak to.
Alternatively Paul Rossiter as he made the adjustments to that machine. As advised when I sold it to you it has been modified from a normal long tom. I only used the unit twice and it couldn't give me the sound I wanted hence my selling it. I wasn't aware of any issue with it otherwise I wouldn't have sold it on.
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Post by cainy on May 10, 2017 22:51:15 GMT
Hello Steve, sorry to answer in open forum but I don't know how to post a PM, if you could ask Amanda to help me I would be grateful, many thanks, Brian.
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Post by cainy on May 10, 2017 22:53:43 GMT
Hello Barry, if possible that data sheet could help, Please could you send it to me, many thanks, Brian.
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Tuffty
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Nothing to update thank you.
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Post by Tuffty on May 11, 2017 12:09:05 GMT
Just another point you may have the tape the wrong way round (the recording tape may be single or double sided )
Make sure the recording side is too the heads.
I'm not an expert, but I have had tape echos all my life. I live in Morecambe, which is'nt to far away, so before you send it off to be repaired, I have a electronics engineerwho lives in Heysham who could have a look at it for you.If you could get it over here with it, let me know.
Tuffty.
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Post by cainy on May 11, 2017 15:03:11 GMT
Hi Tuffty, hopefully I have sent you a PM? I have had tape echo's all my life so know all about the tape, hope to hear from you soon, regards, Brian.
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Tuffty
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Nothing to update thank you.
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Post by Tuffty on May 12, 2017 0:10:26 GMT
Brian . I have replied to your PM.
Regards Tuffty.
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Post by stratman49 on May 12, 2017 7:53:38 GMT
Paul Rossiter is THE man when it comes to tape echoes, both valve and solid state. I am sure most of you would have heard Robby Januarsa's sound postings. Robby's Long Tom needed major surgery to get it working again.
Paul repaired that unit and it sounds great. Paul also overhauled my Long Tom and it is working just fine. He also repaired 6 of my Meazzis (valve and solid state) and to date I have not had any problems.
The only problem is that Paul lives in Perth, Australia so there would a fair amount of freight involved. Good luck with your Long Tom. They are one of the best tape echo units IMHO.
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Post by didier on May 12, 2017 8:05:03 GMT
There is also P.O. Alm in Sweden who is an expert in repairing/restoring vintage echo units.
Didier
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Post by cainy on May 14, 2017 20:56:15 GMT
Many thanks for all the replies I have had, you have all been very kind and helpful, Brian.
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Post by biggs1946 on May 16, 2017 7:22:36 GMT
Personally, I would send it back to the seller if it is not working with a request to get it fixed or give you your money back, I presume it wasn't cheap either!!
Regards,
Jeff
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Post by kipper on May 16, 2017 8:57:13 GMT
Personally, I would send it back to the seller if it is not working with a request to get it fixed or give you your money back, I presume it wasn't cheap either!! Regards, Jeff have to admit that was my first thought to. peter |
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Post by Stu's Dad on May 16, 2017 11:37:52 GMT
He's already spoken to the seller, look at the third post in the thread. Steve's a decent lad who sold it in good faith, I'm sure this can be put right.
Len
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Post by Steve Reynolds on May 16, 2017 14:38:01 GMT
Thanks Len for the comment. That's appreciated.
To clarify to everyone it was me that sold the unit to Brian back in 2015.
I purchased it prior from Mike Hill and owned it for less than a month. I sold it as i was expecting it to give me the magic sound that Robby has but when i compared it to my Meazzi i found that the long tom was quite limited to me as there was no variable speed etc unlike my Meazzi so decided to sell it on. It was all working to the best of my knowledge when i posted it however when Brian received it he noticed the echos were not being erased completely. I then offered for him to send it to Amanda for her review and if it needed work i would pay for it.
Mike did supply me some instructions on email that explained it had been modified by Paul Rossiter but i was unable to locate the instructions when i sold it. I did pm Mike to obtain a copy but he never came back to me.
Hope this clears this up. Seems some people have to make a comment just because its to do with me!
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Post by barryg on May 16, 2017 19:26:36 GMT
I think we would all be a bit annoyed when buying something and later finding it doesn't work properly but if Steve sold the LT in 2015 then that's a long time to start finding faults with it but I think Steve acted very reasonably by offering to get it checked out. I also think it's unfortunate this has been aired on this forum and the problem not sorted out privately.
These tape echo machines are now very old technology and they're temperamental in use and they need to be looked after and maintained as they're not as reliable as the digital units we use now. We are lucky there are still people around who know these machines and can sort out any problems we may have with them. It's great to have these old machines to use but treat them with some respect and they'll keep going and any snags can be sorted out without too much expense.
Barry
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Post by kipper on May 17, 2017 16:04:27 GMT
I think we would all be a bit annoyed when buying something and later finding it doesn't work properly but if Steve sold the LT in 2015 then that's a long time to start finding faults with it but I think Steve acted very reasonably by offering to get it checked out. I also think it's unfortunate this has been aired on this forum and the problem not sorted out privately. These tape echo machines are now very old technology and they're temperamental in use and they need to be looked after and maintained as they're not as reliable as the digital units we use now. We are lucky there are still people around who know these machines and can sort out any problems we may have with them. It's great to have these old machines to use but treat them with some respect and they'll keep going and any snags can be sorted out without too much expense. Barry cant disagree with any of that barry. peter |
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Post by Charlie Hall on May 17, 2017 18:07:45 GMT
Mike did supply me some instructions on email that explained it had been modified by Paul Rossiter but i was unable to locate the instructions when i sold it. I did pm Mike to obtain a copy but he never came back to me. Mike Hill is on the phone with me as I write and he is very unhappy. He has explained to me that the above as quoted is totally untrue and that Paul Rossiter has never seen this unit as far as Mike is concerned so there must be some mistake. The unit was purchased by Mike from a person in Holland. Please do not come back to me to discuss this. I have only agreed to write this on Mike's behalf as he is not a well man. Regards, Charlie |
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Post by Amanda Hambidge on May 17, 2017 18:14:38 GMT
Hi Cainy,
I understand you have problems with a long tom, while I've never actually looked at one the circuitry is virtually identical to the meazzis I usually service and modify, as Dick Denny used the Meazzi circuit with improvements..
Regards
Amanda Hambidge..
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LONG TOM
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Post by Steve Reynolds on May 17, 2017 22:30:42 GMT
Mike did supply me some instructions on email that explained it had been modified by Paul Rossiter but i was unable to locate the instructions when i sold it. I did pm Mike to obtain a copy but he never came back to me. Mike Hill is on the phone with me as I write and he is very unhappy. He has explained to me that the above as quoted is totally untrue and that Paul Rossiter has never seen this unit as far as Mike is concerned so there must be some mistake. The unit was purchased by Mike from a person in Holland. Please do not come back to me to discuss this. I have only agreed to write this on Mike's behalf as he is not a well man. Regards, Charlie My apologies I must have got this unit confused with another one. As per above Brian if you get in touch with Amanda to look at the unit. Any costs let me know and I will sort. Alternatively if you want to send the long tom back to me and I will refund you. Please pm me to resolve Thanks |
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Post by cainy on May 18, 2017 13:22:40 GMT
Hello Steve, many thanks for the reply, if I may contact you in a week's time I would be grateful, we are going to visit our son and grandchildren but will return on 29th, hope this is OK with you, also I find it hard to PM, perhaps you could help?, Regards, Brian.
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Post by Amanda Hambidge on May 19, 2017 18:24:22 GMT
I did see this unit when Mike had it because I remarked about the tape path length
I didn't actually hear it working as I'd gone to Mikes to look at something else.
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