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Jamvox
Oct 25, 2009 18:13:02 GMT
Post by John M. on Oct 25, 2009 18:13:02 GMT
Anyone worked with the Jamvox.. used for extracting guitar parts and leaving the backing intact?
john m
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Jamvox
Oct 25, 2009 18:16:37 GMT
Post by didier on Oct 25, 2009 18:16:37 GMT
Anyone worked with the Jamvox.. used for extracting guitar parts and leaving the backing intact? john m It only works with suitable stereo mix, and the same can be done on a PC with many audio softwares. Didier
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Jamvox
Oct 25, 2009 18:25:11 GMT
Post by John M. on Oct 25, 2009 18:25:11 GMT
Thanks for that. I did listen to the examples on the vox site, but wasnt too impressed. I just wanted to find out if it was really a useable item for shadows tracks. You have just save me £130....thanks.
John M.
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Jamvox
Oct 25, 2009 18:29:02 GMT
Post by graeme on Oct 25, 2009 18:29:02 GMT
You have just save me £130 £130 buys a lot of proper backing tracks!
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Jamvox
Oct 25, 2009 20:50:58 GMT
Post by didier on Oct 25, 2009 20:50:58 GMT
I have a friend who tried to make BTs from Shadows recordings, and found out some which had a suitable mix for that. As far as I know he did that with the Adobe Audition software on PC. All his recordings on this page (ambiance de l'original) from his personal site were made using such BTs : gtabis.free.fr/Soundfiles.htmlThere are many dedicated sofwares for the same purpose, often called "voice eliminator" or something similar, as they are are intented to eliminate the singer on sung tunes to make karaoke backings. But of course it works the same with an instrumental solist. But it only works well when the solist is recorded in perfect mono (same phase and amplitude on both channels), and with a backing in real stereo. The JamVox is of course based on the same principles. There are also a few recordings from the early sixties (at the time of "ping pong" stereo) with the solist on one channel, and the backing on the other. In this case, it's easy to eliminate the solist ! Didier
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Jamvox
Oct 25, 2009 23:27:44 GMT
Post by John M. on Oct 25, 2009 23:27:44 GMT
Thanks. I will check out the web site.
john m
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Jamvox
Oct 26, 2009 8:47:28 GMT
Post by graeme on Oct 26, 2009 8:47:28 GMT
Audition's 'centre channel extractor' is arguably one of the best features of its type - but it's still not perfect (and there's no reason why it should, considering what you are trying to do). One of the nice things about it is that it retains a stereo image for the track that's left - most softwares will end up with a mono back track.
However, Audition is an expensive bit of software (over £300) if all you want to do is make a few backing tracks!
I still say it's better to buy profesionally produced tracks than to fiddle around trying to make your own.
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Jamvox
Oct 27, 2009 11:44:00 GMT
Post by keithinalps on Oct 27, 2009 11:44:00 GMT
I bought one of the first ones it was c**p returned it to nevada who refunded ,could not get a decent sound or remove leadguitar from recordings and half the time it sounded like water dripping in a tunnel
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Jamvox
Oct 27, 2009 21:55:01 GMT
Post by grip on Oct 27, 2009 21:55:01 GMT
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Jamvox
Oct 27, 2009 22:59:49 GMT
Post by graeme on Oct 27, 2009 22:59:49 GMT
If anyone wants to try doing this trick, it's possible in virtually any audio editor you might already have. It's simple enough to do.
1. You must start with a stereo recording.
2. Load the recording into your editor.
3. Invert the phase of *one* channel.
3. Add the two channels together.
That's it - job done (maybe).
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