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Post by rjdupe on Dec 7, 2009 14:01:13 GMT
Hi All ,especially Charlie,
I note that there a a Q20 for sale on e-bay from 'Patrick' and it says this unit is not programmed with EFTP.
Perhaps all our previous problems with this seller have been solved!.
To those of you who might not know what I am talking about many of us had problems with the purchase of pirated copies of Charlie's patches on units supplied from this seller.
All the best,
Robert
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 7, 2009 14:14:59 GMT
Hi Robert,
Thanks for the heads up. I think he is playing safe by advertising the odd unit without EFTP now and again.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by trigger on Dec 8, 2009 19:48:55 GMT
Hi everyone.
No, he just hasn't got the Q20 EFTP, if he had them he'd be selling it with......
Regards.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 9, 2009 1:51:38 GMT
Hi trigger,
You could well be right.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by AussieCherokeeOne on Dec 9, 2009 11:26:57 GMT
Hi All.Patrick is still selling them,He has a Quadraverb Plus with eftp and a
ZOOM G7.1UT G7.1 THE SHADOWS ECHOES FROM THE PAST EFTP. I just checked his store on the well known auction site and they are currant listings
Bill.
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Post by BarryH on Dec 9, 2009 12:31:27 GMT
Bill, he also has a Q20 and a G2 listed as well but it is no good us all talking about it on here if no one bothers to use the REPORT ITEM button on the listing.
The only way anything will ever get done about sellers like this is to report their items to the well known auction site. Charlie, as the owner of the EFTP programmes should also be shouting very loudly at the well known auction site, pirated copies of his programmes are being sold on their site. They don't know this, we have to keep telling them.
Sorry to keep banging on about this but it is the only way. The sellers won't stop doing it on their own behalf because they feel it is wrong and they are ripping someone off, it just deosn't work that way.
If anyone's not sure how to use the REPORT ITEM button just let me know and I'll go through it on the site. Reporting items to the well known auction site has worked with other stuff such as guitars.
Cheers
Barry
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Post by rjdupe on Dec 9, 2009 13:10:22 GMT
Hi Guys again,
You are all right. He has got three units for sale with EFTP. When I first saw the Q20 I thought he had seen the light. The annoying thing is that he has lots of good feedback. If he was infringing a patent then it might be easier to do something about it. I suppose all we can do is to try and make people aware of the pirate copies. I know a lot of people who use EFTP are aware of this site and may be forewarned. I am not sure how successful it would be to report to the well known auction site, he might just say that he bought the units pre programmed with EFTP.
Al the best to all,
Robert
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Post by AussieCherokeeOne on Dec 9, 2009 13:42:55 GMT
Hi Barry,Thanks for the reply.Could you please go through the steps to use the Report Item Button as i will let them know i was sold an item that was listed as PROGRAMMED WITH GENUINE SHADOWS ECHOES FROM THE PAST (EFTP) PATCHES.But it turned out to be a Pirated Program,
Regards Bill.
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Post by BarryH on Dec 9, 2009 14:32:55 GMT
Hi Bill and All,
First you need to go the listing that you're not happy with, in this case an echo unit with illegal copies of Charlie's EFTP.
On the R/H side of the page, just below the item location section are three buttons, the REPORT ITEM button is on the far right of these three.
Click on REPORT ITEM button and you'll get the FILE A REPORT page. The first box you need to click on is the REASON FOR REPORT. The reasons can vary depending on the item you're reporting but in the case of Charlie's EFTP click on COUNTERFEITS AND BREACH OF COPYRIGHT. Now go to the DETAILED REASON box and click on OTHER POTENTIAL INFRINGEMENTS, then go to the ADDITIONAL INFORMATION box and click on ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURERS.
This all opens up the final box BRIEF DESCRIPTION (the well known auction site do not make it easy) and type in something like Seller is using pirated copies of the EFTP programme in this item. Then finally click on the SEND REPORT button.
The more people that do this, the sooner we'll all be using genuine copies of EFTP. Believe me, it's not a long as it looks on here.
Cheers
Barry
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 9, 2009 21:37:17 GMT
The reason I am reluctant to do anything is because some of the units he buys are genuine, although I suspect these may only amount to one item of each type.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by AussieCherokeeOne on Dec 9, 2009 21:46:31 GMT
Hi Barry,Report sent.
Listing Violations > Counterfeits and copyright > Other potential infringement > Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) or bundled software
Item Numbers(s):
250520975858
Message: Seller is using pirated copies of the EFTP programme in this
Item.I can not get updates or sevice . Thats all the room there was to enter message.
Best regards Bill
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Post by AussieCherokeeOne on Dec 9, 2009 22:00:38 GMT
Hi Charlie
I only seen your last posting about being reluctant to do anything after reading the reply from Barry but after i sent it
Sorry if my report about it is going to cause you a problem but i read in previos postings about pirated copies and after checking mine it has no serial number on it or anything to say that is genuine and as such if i have a problem with it i would have to buy new patches
Best Regards Bill
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 9, 2009 22:32:45 GMT
Hi Bill,
It certainly won't cause me a problem! You were directly affected by buying a pirated unit, although it is difficult to prove that a different item is also pirated.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by AussieCherokeeOne on Dec 9, 2009 22:35:00 GMT
Hi Again Charlie,While i'm in the writing mood i need some advise.I bought a Q2 from the US and when it arrived i had to get a new power supply [240v] before i could test it.I noticed when i unpacked it that it had what looks like a blue and purple diamond shaped patern on the display screen.I took it in to town to get it checked and was told the screen was damaged.It was very well packed ind i could not see how it could have been damaged in transit it also had a shop price sticker on the front that was half the buy it now price i paid for it.When contacted i wea told it was tesred before packing and had no problems.The left half of the display works and i can see what channel its in but that is all.because i thought it could probably not be programed with new eftp patches i bought a Q20 from the UK,This one is in a VOX style rack and has the Serial number Q36502259 on the Papers that came with it.i cant see the back to well but it has a security sticker on the case.can you tell me from the serial number if it is Genuine.
Best regards Bill.
And a Merry Chrismas From Australia
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 9, 2009 23:21:59 GMT
Hi Bill,
The Q2 screen is cracked, the blue/purple you see is the liquid leaking out.
Unless there is a clear reason for the display to have had a direct impact, I'd say it was packed like that. I think you could tell them it must have been faulty when packed. Keep the packing as proof that there was no damage to it. If the seller argues about it, tell him to claim on the insurance and let them tell him it wasn't damaged in transit.
Your Q20 is genuine. Watch out for free updates to some of the programs very soon.
A Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by AussieCherokeeOne on Dec 10, 2009 0:19:14 GMT
Hi Charlie.I Sent pics of the damage to them but got no reply so a week later i opend a dispute through Paypal.I just got a reply saying that it was ok when packed but its hard to believe they didnt see the $125.00 price sticker on the front when they checked it,anyway they offered to refund $50. or i could return it for a full refund IFF it was in the same condition as when sent,As i have allready had to buy a new p/supply and with postage both ways coming to $200.00 US i didnt think it was worth sending back as they will say it was not in the same condition as when sent.Is there anywhere i can buy a new diplay pannel for it or is it now jus a paperweight,
Best regards Bill.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 10, 2009 1:08:28 GMT
Hi Bill,
I have about 2 display panels left. They are not new but have been repaired with some new backlight LEDs. After that I won't be able to get any more. The backlighting is a little uneven on both but otherwise fine.
I am trying to recycle these as much as possible but it won't be possible to recycle yours. On the other hand though, if the backlighting is good on yours, it could come in handy.
What is the serial number? Also, if you remove the top lid, you will probably see a board revision letter, A up to E, most likely A or C or E. If it is A or C, it might need a software chip upgrade (I have some) and possibly a modification to the board unless that has already been done.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by AussieCherokeeOne on Dec 10, 2009 2:02:05 GMT
Hi Charlie,I will send a pic of the screen when turned on and check the board.
The Serial number is Q25501654 and the Mfr Date is 27-6-90
I will let you know whe i open it up and get the info from the boards
Besr Regards Bill.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 10, 2009 2:11:13 GMT
Hi Bill,
That is a very early Q2, although the date must be wrong because they didn't make then until 1994, which is probably when yours was made. It would have had a revision A board originally but could have had an exchange board fitted if it ever went back to an Alesis distributor for repair. You can check the software chip as well to see which version is written on it. It is a long chip that plugs into a socket around the middle area of the board and will always have a label on it, hopefully written with the version number.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by AussieCherokeeOne on Dec 14, 2009 4:19:55 GMT
Hi Charlie.I finaly found time to open the Q2. date on the poard 22.12.93
The board Reads
Alesis Corp. pP/N 9-40-1128 REV A.
The Chip
2-31-0059
Q2 V1.05
Alesis [SP]
7/6/95 6ADO
I am wonering if it is worth repairing and upgrading as it needs the display plus any other mods plus eftp patches.Have you any idea how much it would cost all up.
Regards Bill.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 14, 2009 13:17:46 GMT
Hi Bill,
If you email me charliehallATntlworld.com (replacing AT with @) I can send you a pic showing the modification to a revision A board so you can compare with yours to see if that part has already been done.
A replacement screen I could do for around £50 and a software chip for £30, plus postage costs. I don't now think it would be worth having your old screen in exchange as it would probably be too difficult to change over the parts due to the way the LCD screen is connected to the board with a clear flexible plastic film.
I don't know how much you could get another Q2 for but it seems to me that yours needs more spending on it than is worthwhile if it needs the additional modification too.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by AussieCherokeeOne on Dec 14, 2009 18:37:42 GMT
Hi Charlie,I started to write a message i put my address in it then thought i had put it in the drafts folder as its 4am and past my bedtime,I was going to take a pic of the screen powerd up in the morning and attach it to the email,i was just about to shut down the comp when i noticed the message had gone,I will send the pic in the morning,
Best Regards Bill.
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Post by AussieCherokeeOne on Dec 23, 2009 10:06:52 GMT
Hi Charlie,I never got the time to take the pics.I did check the board for mods and it looks like it has never been touched so as it is still working [only half the screen is not working] as per original patches i thought i would just leave it as it is as i have the Quad plus and now the Q20,Also i thought it would be selfish of me to get one of the only two left when there is probably someone out there who needs it far more than i do.
Best Regards and a Merry Christmas and a Happy new Year to you and your family and all members.
p/s being born in Romford essex i still cant get used to the heat at chrismas it just aint the same. Its 8:30 in the evening and the temp is28degs C. [86degs F]
Bill.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 23, 2009 16:25:09 GMT
Hi Bill,
Thanks for letting me know.
Maybe the Q2 will still be useful as a reverb unit in conjunction with echo from another unit.
I was born in Hornchurch, near Romford.
A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Regards,
Charlie
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