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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 5:14:29 GMT
HI TO ALL SHADS FAN'S & OTHER"S... THE wife & myself made the 400k's round trip to Adelaide yesterday in 39deg heat to the very new very large ''entertainment centre '' to see ''The cliff & shads 50th anniversary ''tour'' the 39th out of 55 they will have done!!! Although I am not a big-fan-of cliff's I must say he was outstanding in good -voice very active & fit espessially at 68 !!![AND ''CHARLIE -he has found the ''leather-trouser's'' that you discarded ] must have conned them from your young relitive?  ??HA.HAAAR.. THE SHADS HAVE NOT LOST A THING ''JUST-BRILLIANT'' ''THE-ROCK'' as hank refered to ''BRIAN-BENNETT'' was amazing ,sporting a ''tee-shirt'' with a big 70 ,with the word's ''DAMM-I MAKE-70-LOOK-GOOD'' & he did!!!!!!! great drumming , goodonya-brian -may it continue -mate!!!... ''THE-SOUND-was great in this venue'' ''HANK,S playing was so good & his sound was very good ,the reason we don't hear regeneration, in my opinion as was there was none-or very little ,it must have been done for a good reason ''audio-wise-by the mixer tech's,but the ''ECHO was very good'' especially on all muted part's ,we got the normal 4 or more heads very strong but as said they omitted the feed-back ,for some obvious reason's ,but I must say that the overall sound was very very good, THEY have not lost a thing in 50 year's!!!!!.. 4x ''JMI'' 30's,   amp's were prominent on stage 2x for hank &2x for bruce who by the way must be age-less [look's as he did all those years ago & just as witty!!!!great-stuff by bruce... ''HANK 's sound [in the shads number's] was so solid & woody ''great sound'' IF I was to be picky the only thing that was a bit sharp [no compression & or full attack] was some of the higher notes the plain-string ones ,but no worries there really, his ''apache was spot on ,the gallop fantastic!!!, his ''atlantis'' also great muted pieces [done as per record] as in a previous concert I notice him not using the echo as such but double picking to emulate the sound ,but last night he did the correct muting .. as we know it to be!!  ALL the back-up muso's were very good as well . an overall proffessional performance given by all concerned!!!  WE arrived home at 3am this morning & the temp was still 31 deg!!! A very enjoyable concert in my opinion & would highly recomend it to ALL shads fan's.. CHEERS ALL ...................barry.. |
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Post by boritz on Feb 11, 2010 8:05:37 GMT
Good-onya Barry.
I'm off to the Melbourne concert on Saturday (13th Feb 2010). Forecast max about 25C. I used to live in Adelaide so I hear you on the weather.
Glad to learn that those "northerners" didn't wear the old boys out for our tour!
Don't tell everyone - but we are actually getting the 51st Anniversary Tour 2010 - not that 'old' 50th one from 2009.
Regards,
Dave.
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Post by kipper on Feb 11, 2010 8:49:12 GMT
thanks for the report barry. sounds like you had a great time. good to hear hank got it right this time. ;D i have heard nothing but good reviews where ever they play and looking at pictures they all seem to be having fun. peter
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 11:35:49 GMT
HI BORITZ & PETER & ALL ,, well I say again they were JUST ''GREAT'' no disapointment's at all .. DAVE yes mate I had not thought that we in'' OZ'' are getting the 2010 concert!!!! HA.HAAR ,, well they are playing tonight in adelaide as well 11th so just a short break for your show & I am sure you won't be dissapointed mate they seem to be enjoying it as much as the audience!!! THE program is $30.00 but is filled with memorabilia very well done high gloss stuff a great souvenir to have
PETER ,, hank definately had it down great sound indeed ,,on stage there were 4x ''JMI'' 30 amps 2x for hank & 2x for bruce..
THE full width large screen was a bonus behind them showing close-up's etc etc..
GLAD I WENT it will be my last time & maybe there's as well??..
THE STRAT's he used on the shads bracket's had heaverly figured maple neck's & gold trimming's ,both red ..very thick& solid sounding strat's !!
CHEERS ALL ................barry.. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2010 10:06:40 GMT
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Post by Len on Feb 15, 2010 1:09:43 GMT
Hello All
I went with my wife Judy to the Cliff Richard and The Shadows Melbourne concert last night, most appropriately, on Valentine's Day. Judy is not really what you would call a fan but enjoys them in Concert as she has before when we saw The Shadows on their own about 20 years ago.
They certainly put on a great show. The opening was amazing and started of with a bang -- literally (I assume it was probably the same opening at other Aussie venues). Cliff Richard gave it everything and so did Brian Bennett. Both looked exhausted towards the end of the show, which started at 8.05 p.m. and ended at 11.10 p.m. (half hour Interval). Hank and Bruce were their usual "laid back" selves but were far from disinterested in proceedings. Warren made a great contribution with his versatility on various instruments, including harmonica and accordion. There were no major hiccups with the performance though Cliff had one "senior's moment" (as Bruce put it) when he got confused and thought he was still in Adelaide. Bruce, of course managed to make light of it all and pointed out the huge difference in ages between Hank, himself and Cliff (Brian is actually older than Cliff). What is the difference? It's about a year, isn't it? Cliff covered for his gaffe rather well and later humbly apologised. I noticed one fluffed note from Hank early in the Concert and a slight missed note error later but probably nobody else did.
I liked the way Hank seemed to be able to soar into the stratosphere with his improvisations but somehow still managed to make a safe landing. The sound of Hank's Burns Signature Double-Six was huge. I liked the sound though usually prefer that of a Strat. I think I would prefer to hear full acoustic guitars miked up rather than acoustic/electrics (mainly seems to apply to Hank's guitar) but that is a personal thing. I understand that Hank, in particular, is concerned about feedback issues at large venues especially as he is stands right behind the on-stage monitor. The monitors should probably be placed at the side but this is difficult at some venues.
The acoustics were great, as they usually are at the Rod Laver Arena. It's the first time I have been there when the roof has been closed on a fine night - no doubt for acoustical reasons. There were no sound/video synch problems as had apparently occurred in Perth by all accounts. There was a slight momentary glitch in the video which I and others we spoke to afterwards noticed. We were sitting a few rows behind the video/sound-controllers pit, or whatever you call it. There were a couple of what appeared to be laptops running the video. Given that scenario, it is hardly surprising that there should be a glitch somewhere (computers seem to have a way of deciding that their background processing is more important than what you happen to be doing at the moment). The overall performance was exceptional. I loved the way Cliff and the Shadows performed various routines in the spaces where there were no vocals or solo guitar parts. The choreographing was highly rehearsed and most professional. Cliff is a master with his movement and gestures, microphone technique, and so forth.
The echoes were clear and crisp and seem to work well with the acoustics of the venue. I wasn't looking for vintage echo patterns with some of the older tunes. I didn't notice any sharp cut-offs on the echoes on The Savage that others had noticed in Perth, for example, but then I wasn't really looking for those.
Overall, it was a wonderful Concert and everyone seemed to enjoy the evening.
Len
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Post by boritz on Feb 16, 2010 8:06:51 GMT
That's a detailed report Len!
I went to the Melbourne concert on the evening before you (Saturday 13th February 2010).
I was one of the sell-out 12,500 50 y.o.-plus'ers. Well worth the 350Km round-trip.
A great show and what a well-behaved and pleasant crowd.
Only one downside on Saturday IMO - the sound-mix was too bottom-heavy tending to overpower the guitars and vocals a bit. Perhaps this was adjusted for the Sunday concert?
But, combining the top-quality mix on the DVD and seeing the live show - a great memory.
Thank you Cliff, The Shadows and your entourage.
Regards,
Dave.
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Post by twang46 on Feb 16, 2010 22:02:07 GMT
G'day Barry, Len & Dave Just a thought about about the "Double 6" sound that Hank has in Aus, as at the concert I went to in Newcastle it sounded very ordinary, "thin" even for the couple of songs he used it on. Do you think there was a different set up in Aus from the UK/Europe tour as the guys from TVS were obviously on hand to make set-up adjustments ? Cheers Dick ps.......................great concerts |
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Post by alanh on Feb 16, 2010 23:30:22 GMT
Dave,
I went to the Gold Coast show last night, and the sound mix is still the same
I agree with you, its a little bottom heavy.
Still a great show, all the same.
Wish I had bought tickets for Brisbane as well!!
Cheers
Alan H
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Post by boritz on Feb 17, 2010 6:52:57 GMT
...the concert I went to in Newcastle...Do you think there was a different set up in Aus from the UK/Europe tour...? G'day Dick, I assume you mean the Pommie Newcastle ;D From what I saw in Melbourne (and I could see down into the sound and guitar techo's area too) the set-up and instruments were the same as on the London O2 DVD. As Alan and I said, the mix was bottom-heavy. But, as everyone seems to think, great concerts all-the-same. Regards, Dave. |
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Post by Len on Feb 17, 2010 7:34:34 GMT
Hi Dave, Dick and Alan
I thought that the sound of Hank's "double 6" was rich and anything but thin on the final night in Melbourne. I did not think that the sound was "bottom heavy" at all and that is despite the fact that I have normal hearing loss (for my age) in the upper ranges. It is true that the double six doesn't sound jangly like a typical twelve string. However, as I understand it, Hank uses it more to provide a lead sound due to the unique spacing of the strings on that guitar (designed for lead work). I thought that Hank's Strat cut through quite nicely and this was rather different to the 2004 Tour DVD (and CD) where it definitely was bottom heavy to the point of producing a nasty sounding low-end distortion. I put the better sounding high-end down to the Vox amp Hank used on Sunday night as no doubt he used at other concerts too. Not that the amps he used on that occasion were inferior (I put it down to the overload). Hank has said on more than one occasion, that he was trying to get a "meatier" sound than he had in the early days. If that is the case, I guess those who like the older sound won't really like it.
Obviously, I can't comment on other nights but am sure that the overall mix was not bottom heavy though the bass was certainly strong. Judy is adamant that it sounded very balanced and great on the night. The crowd loved it and the reception was really warm. We all heard the vocals quite well on that night. Others we spoke to afterwards loved it too.
Cliff's voice got a little raspy towards the end on one song. Perhaps they were concerned about that and how it would hold and took some of the treble off on certain nights to avoid the obvious thinning of Cliff's voice these days. Then again, the sound mix can come down to the venue, the sound of the hall once it is full and perhaps an overall adjustment to the sound at that particular venue. It could also depend on where you are sitting too. We were sitting almost front on to the stage. Treble sound would have travelled quite directly to there whereas some sitting on either side of the hall may have heard more bass due to the less direct sound. Laver Arena is rather large and the hall was full on Sunday night. There was certainly plenty of reverberation going on but it wouldn't have called it "bottom heavy."
It is no doubt difficult to allow for every contingency in a sound check before the concert. Hopefully, in a two concert venue, some evaluation would have followed after the first concert and some allowance would be possible on the second night. In a smaller venue, the same sound would be possibly be rather bassy.
My brother is seeing them on Saturday night in the Hunter Region of NSW (Wembley wasn't enough for him) and I will ask him to look out for that "bottom heavy" sound. The trouble is, he is deaf in one ear.
Sorry that I have to disagree with you guys but it's maybe the way it was that night or perhaps my hearing is "stuffed". Or maybe again, I just like it "bassier" than most. Anyway it's the way I heard it then and am calling it now I guess.
Regards
Len
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Post by boritz on Feb 17, 2010 10:41:18 GMT
Nothing to apologise about Len This is a discussion forum and that's what we're doing ;D. I think we agree that we all enjoyed the shows. |
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Post by twang46 on Feb 18, 2010 0:36:33 GMT
Hi guys At the concert in the "Original" ;D Newcastle I was sitting central on the floor area close to the sound desk & I thought the sound was very well balanced and better than the dvd. It's an indoor arena with around 10,000 seats laid out in traditional flat floor, banked sides & back style. The sound of the Burns has obviously been "looked at" as several people have agreed with me that it's "sound" was I suppose "ordinary" on our part of the tour. There had very obviously been a lot of care & thought put into the "sound" with everything from string gauge to "vintage" amps & multiple guitars as well as very sympathetic arrangements of the songs. I was so pleased to hear the "old" songs like "High class Baby/Dynamite/Voice in the Wilderness" and the rest for what will surely be the last time in a proper tour. What a way to sign off 50 years of concerts Dick. |
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Post by boritz on Feb 18, 2010 7:26:54 GMT
...the "Original" ;D Newcastle... Yep - I knew that - just stirring ;D Agreed, I thought that it was great that they focussed on the Cliff & Shads era (and the solo's during that time) and not try to cover the separate careers after that period. Seconded. Regards, Dave. |
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Post by twang46 on Feb 18, 2010 15:17:07 GMT
;D
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Post by sheendigs on Mar 9, 2010 12:16:45 GMT
Hi There
I was not lucky to see the show of Cliff in person.
But now, we have received the NTSC version of Cliff's show.
The sound and view are amazing on a big screen and a good
surround sound! ;D
And we can see very young persons dancing at the big 'O'..
Sheendigs
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??HA.HAAAR.. 
