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Post by wattybluesman on Mar 22, 2011 14:41:49 GMT
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Post by twang46 on Mar 22, 2011 17:12:42 GMT
Hi Watty Check out Jeff Beck's version www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n_d63R7bnMPart of his tribute concert to Les Paul, " Jeff Beck's" Rock & Roll Party" by far the best music dvd out this year ;D ;D ;D Cheers Dick |
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Post by normg on Mar 22, 2011 17:33:49 GMT
What a great site, very interesting. Thanks for the link.
cheers norm
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Post by Charlie Hall on Mar 22, 2011 19:08:15 GMT
There is something that has bothered me for years. I had heard Rock Around The Clock one day on the radio, it must have been 30 or 40 years ago, and it was much the same, except the lead guitar break was different, and not as complex as the one we usually hear. I have never heard it again since. So the question is, who played on which version? I have seen Francis (Franny) Beecher live with the Comets about 10 years ago (I think he was 82 then) and he is one of the finest guitarists I have ever seen. His solo in Rock Around the Clock was exactly like the version we usually hear, down to the notes and timing and sound. All the other parts in other songs were truly authentic, and if anything, better than we hear on the records.
Has anyone ever heard the other version that I heard years ago? I tend to think that was the original version with Danny Cedrone playing but if I'm wrong I'd like to know more.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by Charlie Hall on Mar 22, 2011 19:37:22 GMT
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Post by harley on Mar 22, 2011 21:26:43 GMT
Hi Charlie
I am sure i have also heard this other version. if my memory serves me right it also had a slightly different ending
regards
Ian
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Post by wattybluesman on Mar 23, 2011 8:33:37 GMT
Hi Guys.  I've got 2 or 3 LP's as well as C,D's of Bill Haley and the guitar solos are all different WattyBluesman.  The best I've heard this solo played in a long time was by Alvin Stardust's guitarist
" Glyn Davis " Awesome player. |
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Post by 26rednef on Mar 23, 2011 10:13:54 GMT
Hi.
Danny Cedrone was a unique guitarist but he tend to use same or very similar runs as in "Rock Around the Clock" in most of his solos, good but a bit narrow, if he had get a longer life it may have been a different story.
Kind Regards,
26rednef
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Post by les on Mar 23, 2011 10:14:47 GMT
WOW ! Thats a great live set up,Anyone know which model Gibson Mr Beecher was playing ?
Also when the sax came in for the solo it was like pouring maple syrup onto pancakes, ........ loads of it. ............. Brilliant ! Thanks Charlie,I dont think i would ever of come across that video. Best wishes, Les.
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Post by 26rednef on Mar 23, 2011 10:34:12 GMT
Hi.
It seams to be a ES 137.
Kind Regards,
26redenf
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Post by les on Mar 23, 2011 10:42:45 GMT
Thankyou Red. Best wishes, Les.
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Post by gibbo3272 on Mar 23, 2011 11:00:32 GMT
Hello Charlie,
This is an interesting topic, in 1952 Bill Haley and his then group The Saddlemen, some of the later Comets - Danny Cedrone (guitar), Billy Williamson (steel guitar), Johnny Grande (piano) and Marshall Lytle (double bass), recorded a number called "Rock The Joint", the solo that Danny Cedrone plays is almost identical to his solo on the recorded "Rock Around The Clock".
In the book "Sound and Glory" co-written by Bill Haley's son John W. Haley and John von Hoelle, it is recorded :
"Cedrone's brilliant and fiery jazz inspired solo on Rock The Joint was so impressive that Bill Haley would have him repeat it note for note when he recorded Rock Around the Clock two years later. As a lasting tribute to Cedrone's unique style and skill, Bill Haley would gauge all other lead guitarists by this musician's genius. Long after Danny's untimely death, when Bill had become and international superstar, he would tell all other young, aspiring guitarists who wanted to join his band, When you can play like Cedrone, come back and see me."
Geoff
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Post by Charlie Hall on Mar 23, 2011 12:01:09 GMT
One way to find out would be to hear the original version of Rock The Joint with Danny Cedrone playing. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find it. Does anyone have it, or a link to it?
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by grip on Mar 23, 2011 13:02:10 GMT
Hi Charlie, I'm not well up on the Rockabilly, but I think you may find the Esquie Boys "Guitar Boogie Shuffle" with Danny Cedrone interesting on this site in the video's tab: wn.com/Danny_CedroneKind regards, Chris |
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Post by twang46 on Mar 23, 2011 13:38:49 GMT
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Post by Charlie Hall on Mar 23, 2011 21:30:15 GMT
Hi Dick, Thanks very much for that, what an amazing reproduction from an old 78! It also settles the doubt that has bothered me for years as far as I'm concerned. Danny must have played on the original recording of Rock Around The Clock, since the lead break is virtually identical. The alternate version I heard years ago must have been one of the later recordings of it, I read that it was re-recorded several times over the years. Hi 26rednef, Here is a link for Francis Beecher, it says he plays an ES-225, but I wouldn't know whether that is what he played in that video or what he used when I saw Bill Haley's Comets live as I am not too good at identifying Gibson models. Early videos of Francis Beecher with The Comets show him using a Les Paul, also mentioned in the link above. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franny_BeecherRegards, Charlie |
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Post by Charlie Hall on Mar 23, 2011 21:34:54 GMT
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the link to Guitar Boogie Shuffle. Perfect timing, but then again, he was a session musician.
Regards,
Charlie
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