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Post by rogera on Aug 20, 2011 18:32:11 GMT
Today I received an enquiry as to whether I had recorded a backing track for Hank Marvin's version of "Red River Rock".
I wasn't aware of Hank or The Shadows having recorded that number and a quick search confirmed that.
However, my curiosity was aroused and after doing some checking on the internet I found that that number had been recorded by a
group calling themselves The Shades of Grey.
I found a copy of the album on the well known auction site and in my opinion the cover makes every effort to make it appear that the recording artists are
The Shadows. The item number on the well known auction site is 120697484256 - see what you think.
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Post by grip on Aug 20, 2011 20:08:22 GMT
Hi Roger,
I think you are right, and it's not the first time I have seen this sort of adverse selling tactic. A few years ago my Father bought a CD With Very Large "The Shadows" lettering and in quite small text above it were the word"The Apaches play hits of", my Father bought the CD believing it to be by the Shadows.
Kind regards,
Chris
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Post by rockinscott on Aug 21, 2011 7:20:35 GMT
They are both the same cd & there was a disscussion about them n the old msn sites.
Scott
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Post by twang46 on Aug 21, 2011 8:55:45 GMT
Hmmmm
Interesting thread, I have the "Shades of Grey" cd & was not under any illusion about it being anything other than a "covers" cd
The other cd mentioned by the "Apaches" has a different track listing & may or may not be by the same people as the "20 years of" cd.
When is a "scam" not a "scam" ?
I personally like the "Shades of Grey" cd & after looking again at the front of the cd do not feel there is any intent to mislead.
Has anybody really been misled by these cd's ?
Interested to hear from them
Cheers
Dick
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Post by brian on Aug 21, 2011 9:46:03 GMT
if this was my album i would want my name in the big letters
in my eyes this is a trick to sell albums. Brian
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 10:05:22 GMT
I agree this is a sales gimmick that could mislead a buyer into thinking is was the Shadows. It's bit like the cheap CD for sale on a market stall by a 60's band but in fact is a later rerecording by the band as it is now with perhaps only one band member still remaining, the drummer or something. The resulting sound is terrible and nothing like the original. My old mum fell for that one more than once. I never had the heart to tell her as she thought she had "treated me" to the genuine article. It goes on !! Seems like you still have to read the small print. George.  |
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Post by twang46 on Aug 21, 2011 11:31:02 GMT
I agree this is a sales gimmick that could mislead a buyer into thinking is was the Shadows. It's bit like the cheap CD for sale on a market stall by a 60's band but in fact is a later rerecording by the band as it is now with perhaps only one band member still remaining, the drummer or something. The resulting sound is terrible and nothing like the original. My old mum fell for that one more than once. I never had the heart to tell her as she thought she had "treated me" to the genuine article. It goes on !! Seems like you still have to read the small print. George. Hi George I was specifically referring to the "Shades of Grey" cd in my reply above. I do completely agree you about these "Greatest Hit's" cd's that you see at a "bargain" prices turning out to be poor quality re-recordings (usually "live") that you really do have to read the small print (sometimes very small) to get the true story. Just a thought........ I had the "UB Hank 4" cd to hand & nowhere on the front or back of the cd case does it mention that the cd is "cover versions". Inside the slip cover it does of course list the musicians playing on the cd. Hi Brian....... The players on the "Shades of Grey" cd are (I presume) session musicians who received a fee for their work & would have no control over the marketing of the cd Cheers Dick |
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Post by brian on Aug 21, 2011 19:00:09 GMT
Yes Dick thats fine but somebodys on the make yeh
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Post by twang46 on Aug 21, 2011 21:28:22 GMT
Yes Dick thats fine but somebodys on the make yeh Brian In the music business....somebody is always "on the make " somewhere. Dick |
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Post by brian on Aug 23, 2011 9:18:45 GMT
Last year i swapped a few emails with the pianist who played on the nut rocker single
you may know it went strait to number one in the charts in the sixties
by b bumble and the stingers ,and yes they where all session men known as the wrecking crew . Brian
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Post by ithepact on Aug 29, 2011 8:43:57 GMT
Brian,
in a book I read recently it mentioned the b bumble situation.. but also that they were in fact coloured musicians and the white guys you see on the LP covers are in fact blow-ins who were used for publicity and tours.
Cheers
Peter
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Post by brian on Aug 29, 2011 9:54:01 GMT
Hi Peter, the guy who played piano on nut rocker was actually a white american called Al hazan, he was brought in as a last minute replacement, the record was done in one take allthough he wanted to do it again he made a new album last year with much simular tunes like nut rocker take a look at this it might be of interest. regards Brian en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nut_Rocker |
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Post by brian on Aug 30, 2011 8:35:58 GMT
Hi guys, just noticed an interesting piece in my posting above this one
at the bottom of the page you will see information about wonderful land, just click on it.cheers Brian
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