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Post by strat64 on Sept 4, 2011 16:33:29 GMT
Hi! I'm trying to record Atlantis, and discovered when I played a YouTube video to refresh my memory, that the guy shifted to neck pickup when he played the muted notes, and then back to lead pickup for the rest!I have allways played the the whole song with the lead pickup! When I tested this, I found it hard to shift from the neck to lead at the outro, (after the last muted notes) fast enough! Do all of you here, shift pickup when playing Atlantis! Regards Bo
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Post by neil2726 on Sept 4, 2011 17:11:11 GMT
The final muted part is on the neck pick up and older vids of Hank show him switching to the bridge pick up, but I dont think he actually plays that part as on the record. i.e. he alters the ending to give him time to change pickups. I recall some years ago a discussion that suggested the actual recording was over dubbed at the pick up switch time. I always play the whole outro with the neck pick up but play the strings near the bridge to get a more treble - sharper sound after the dampened section. In their last concerts Hank didnt switch pickups hardly at all - seems his tone is done from the mixer desk along with his echo settings.
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Post by TonyL on Sept 4, 2011 20:00:19 GMT
Hi Bo
I tend to play the last muted note on the open 3rd string, this just gives me time to switch pickups using my little finger to flick the switch.
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Post by strat64 on Sept 4, 2011 20:41:41 GMT
Thank you all for your replyes! I have made a recording and uploaded it to Sound Files, if someone will listen to it! Regards Bo
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2011 19:27:44 GMT
Hi there is very little if any time to switch pickups. What Tony L suggests is just about possible if you are quick. I have tried it and occasionally miss What I do mostly is to play the last muted section with the middle pick-up and stay on it for the ending. Various options find one that suits YOU. !! George.
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Post by abstamaria on Sept 13, 2011 8:39:35 GMT
Yes, I asked this same question some time ago, Bo, as I found it impossible to shift pickups at the outro. I now do the same as George - use the middle pickup for the muted sections in the outro and stay there, but of course this is a compromise and the sound is not as original. If you listen to the original recording on headphones, you will hear the muted sections come from a different place, as if a 2nd lead guitarist were playing them. That suggests an overdub. But I am told some of us here are actually fast enough to shift pickups! Lightning fast pinkies.
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Post by Emiel Visser on Sept 13, 2011 10:17:57 GMT
Hi,
It is possible to switch very quick. Just practice it for an hour without destroying the switch and having the knob launched in the air. It is just a gracious move with hand.
Good luck!
Regards, Emiel
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Post by footapper3 on Sept 13, 2011 11:06:07 GMT
Hi, I agree with Emiel, simply practice the switching until it becomes a natural part of playing the tune.
Regards Johann
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Post by abstamaria on Sept 13, 2011 23:24:10 GMT
Groan ... OK, I will practice some more. Thanks, Emiel, Johann
Andy
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Post by strat64 on Sept 14, 2011 8:20:10 GMT
Hi, Yes, practice was the solution. Thank you all for your replies. Regards Bo
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Post by ade on Sept 18, 2011 20:01:53 GMT
Hi there
Just as the dust is settling on this thread!!
I was at Shadowmania yesterday and watched Phil Kelly playing Atlantis. I believe (if you were there - correct me if I am wrong), that he switched to the neck PU for the muted part, then delayed playing the "G" note while he switched back to the bridge PU.
I hope there is a video to show this.
Regards Ade
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Post by chippy71 on Sept 21, 2011 21:31:47 GMT
watch hank plays live, he switches really good on that dvd.
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Post by abstamaria on Sept 21, 2011 22:34:45 GMT
Which DVD, Chippy? Andy
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Post by harley on Sept 22, 2011 21:09:17 GMT
Hi Bo
I use the same method as Tony and hit the open G of the outro on the neck pup which gives me plenty of time to change to the bridge while the G is still ringing
regards Ian
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