Where's Charlie

[BarryH]

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Cheers
Barry

[Charlie Hall]

I have been away gigging and am back now, will be answering all emails very soon.
Regards,
Charlie

[john44]

Hi Charlie
A couple of months ago I spotted a video on your site of a french guy who had the early hank sound I have had computer trouble and been out of action and now cant find him again could you please let me know where to look. Secondly I have a zoom508 with your patches and love the sound 40 years ago i had a klempt echolette but your patches are the greatest thanks for all your work and your contribution to allowing us old guys recapture the memories of our youth
cheers john44

[Deleted]

HI JOHN 44 ,, If it's gerabriel'' you are refering to have a look in the sound-file section,I posted a link the otherday!!& He is very very good...

CHEERS barry..

[Charlie Hall]

Hi John,
Glad to hear that you are pleased with the 508 patches.
I don't remember seeing the video but I am fairly sure that it will be of Gerabriel, as Barry says.
Regards,
Charlie

[john44]

Hi Charlie and Barry
Thanks for your reply and info I watched Gerabriel and he sure sounds good but I am not sure if he is the same guy I saw before . In his video you could see his amp and aleses units I think there were two and he had the early hank sound ( man of mystery ) perfect >Its great to have this forum and site available I have felt isolated in Australia over the years being only able to talk to a few of my old mates about shadows stuff but the info I have picked up on is great . I only found out about the echo units with Charlies patches by stumbling onto the site
cheers john44

[Deleted]

HI john44....I am also in a reasonably remote district in ''SA'' 200k's north of adelade ,, & this site has been a salvation to me ,, .
WHERE in OZ do you live john I seem to recognise the j-44 ,,??maybe not???

CHEERS .......barry..

[Charlie Hall]

Thinking about it, I don't think that Gerabriel is a member here. I cannot remember who else from France could have posted.
Have a look through the sound files for versions of Man Of Mystery.
Regards,
Charlie

[john44]

Hi Charlie
Thanks I will try searching the sound files cheers John44

[john44]

Hi Barry
I am in brisbane I ahve purchased a lot of guitars on the well known auction site maybe thats where you may have ancountered me I feel a bit jelouse at times of all the good gear available in the uk relating to Hank , The Shadows . and Jet Harris I got my zoom 508 from the well known auction site uk and have now got a yahama magic stomp box from uk as well . Its good to be able to communicate with other people re shadows and guitars and music
cheers john44

[john44]

Hi again Charlie
I found the video I was looking for it was actually Frightened City I read your info on the guy he is apparently known as gege and on utube gegab I close my eyres and listen and he is the nearest thing to the early shadows sound I have ever heard
cheers John44

[BarryH]

Jun 24, 2009 11:07:24 GMT john44 said:

Hi again Charlie
I found the video I was looking for it was actually Frightened City I read your info on the guy he is apparently known as gege and on utube gegab I close my eyres and listen and he is the nearest thing to the early shadows sound I have ever heard
cheers John44

Gerard Tabis: gtabis.free.fr/index.html

Didier posted the following about Gerard a few days ago:

Hear the difference here on Gégé's site: gtabis.free.fr/index.html All titles under "ambiance de l'original" (in the original mood) were recorded by Gégé using BTs made from original Shadows' recordings.
He has also been working for years to emulate as accuratly as possible Hank's lead guitar sound...

Didier

Cheers
Barry

[john44]

Hi Barry
He sure sounds good , am I being sceptical about him and some others on u tube where the sound and and hand movement seem to be at odds with each other .Are people pre recording and just miming to their own sound Cheers john44

[BarryH]

Hello John,

I'm sure the delay on YT is latency if that's the right word to use. I think most of the videos on there are genuine. On one of Gerabriel's videos you can hear him cough.

The was a big "discussion" on another forum about the sound/hand movement being un-coordinated where someone was more or less accused of miming but it was a genuine video.

Cheers
Barry

[fenderplucker]

Hi John44,

I just saw the thread and am always interested to hear about other Aussie Shadows fans. There is a very active Shadows club over here in Perth with regular monthly get-togethers and other events throughout the year. If you should ever get the opportunity to come to Perth please let us know so that we can arrange something. We had the pleasure of a visit from Barry "Hoadlies" and his lovely wife a while ago (he commented above).

Also, have you checked out the soundfiles on the TVS website www.tvsspecialtyproducts.com (go to the soundfiles and video page and click on the jukebox)? We are an Aussie enterprise trying to help those who want to get an authentic Shadows sound.

Best Regards,

Paul.

[Deleted]

HI JOHN 44 ,, brisbane no worries mate you have had a lot of rain recently as well ,But we are now getting some ''at-last'' we have had 3-4 years very dry ...

Another shads fan that's good john I restarted this hobbie 4 years ago now & this site of charlie's and the perth music club and 1 or two others have opened my eyes to the shads original sounds ,I my self do not play too-well but I enjoy the sounds that can be now had with a bit of gear & patience ..I am nearly 70 & still enjoy it!!!

ALL THE BEST ,,,JOHN..............barry..

[john44]

Hi Barry
Its geat to be able to chat with other shadows fans , I started palying guitar at 18 which was fourty seven years ago so that makes me 65 in august .I was lucky to play in three bands here in brisbane The Breakaways, The defenders , and finally end most successfully The Diplomat Show band . I stopped performing when the family came along and I had to spend more time at the day job. My wife and I had our 40th annivesary last december and got some members of my old bands together to perform about twenty numbers we had about four rehearsels and could not beleive how good we went over and how good the sound was after thirty five plus years . We all asked the same question why did we stop, We have talked about doing it again but at this stage have done nothing I think we need another event to motivate us . What type of guitar do and gear do you have and do you play often
chers john 44

[john44]

HI Paul
Great to hear from you I have heard about your fan club in perth and was wondering how to contact about it. I hope to retire in the next twelve months or so and would like to make the trip to perth The Home Of Hank. I had a quick look at the tvs web site very impressive I will be back to look a lot more. Its amazing how many people are dedicated to the preservation and promotion of the Shadows sound will be in touch again
cheers john44

[Len]

Hello Guys

More Aussies Oi! Oi! Oi!
We seem to be all around the country now: Queensland, N.S.W., S.A., W.A. and Victoria. Are there any other places represented here?

Len

[fenderplucker]

Hi,

Len, there are indeed a large number of Shadows fans in Oz. I sold a 508 to one in Tassie a few years ago so I think we have all the states covered. Not sure about NT though??

John, Spiro organises the Perth Shadows club; I'll e-mail his contact details.

Charlie, I loved the sound of your Gretsch on the video posted on the Perth site a week ago, and well played too! One of my first memories of live rock music was a Melbourne band called The Thinderbirds and I was entranced at the sound of the wailing Gretsch that I could hear soaring above the band as I walked along the footpath to the Mailing Hall where thay played. I have wanted one ever since!

Regards,

Paul.

[Charlie Hall]

Hi Paul,
I put the link to the video on this site as soon as I was told about it, and didn't know until then that the performance had even been recorded. I also didn't know it had been posted on the Perth site.
You might be interested to read more details in the general section. The thread title has the name Rock Island Rebels.
That Gretsch has a unique sound as I put an original DeArmond bridge pickup to replace the original reissue one that had gone open. I also have another Gretsch, a 6122-1959, which is a replica of Chet Atkins' main recording model, it is a lovely instrument, although I don't take it out to gigs.
Regards,
Charlie

[asimmd]

So do we have a list of the equipment Gege uses to obtain this sound?

Alan

[BarryH]

Jun 26, 2009 8:08:12 GMT asimmd said:

So do we have a list of the equipment Gege uses to obtain this sound?

Alan

Alan if you click on the "Chicken" playing the purple guitar with the words Mon Matos, it's all there.

It would appear that Gerard does not reply to anyone about the equipment he uses. Both Didier and Alain have tried on my behalf without success. Although he has two Q20s showing in his rack it was said he doesn't use EFTP, I'm sure Charlie can tell us if that's correct.

In a recent post, Didier mentioned that if you click on the Ambiance De L' Original button, those are tunes with the original Shadows backing but Hank removed.

Cheers
Barry

[asimmd]

Thanks Barry,here's where I get into trouble,and I have been playing for 50 years.

It's no wonder He dosen't comment on the equipment,the stuff pictured would NOT on it's own give the sound He say's He get's.
Come on guy's,don't you think if He had a way of reproducing Hanks sound He would shout it from the rooftops?
Even Hank can't recreate His own sound,so that tells us a lot,dosen't it.

This isn't a get at anyone thread,just seems a bit suspicious.Mmmmmmmmmm

Alan

[BarryH]

Jun 26, 2009 9:04:32 GMT asimmd said:

Come on guy's,don't you think if He had a way of reproducing Hanks sound He would shout it from the rooftops?

Alan

Alan, I'd disagree with that.

Gerard is a professional musician so I can fully understand why he keeps his settings to himself. It's probably taken him years of changing his setup to get what he was after.

I'm not saying he's right in keeping it to himself but I can understand why. What would he get out of telling everyone? At a quick glance I'd guess the kit he uses is not in most people's budget anyway.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oJqFrVedB4&feature=channel_page

Cheers
Barry

[Charlie Hall]

Gege once posted a version of The Snowman on another site. I could tell immediately that he used my Complex program for it, when I mentioned it he said he had borrowed a Q2 (or Q20) with EFTP.
I have been suspicious ever since, and he never purchased programs from me.
I think that Gary Allen has got closer to the original Hank sounds, older and later.
Regards,
Charlie

[fenderplucker]

Hi,

I seem to recall from an earlier site that he uses a Rocktron preamp, 2 q20's (one for echo, the second for equalisation) and a Line 6 rack mount Pod. After that I'm not sure but the video shows a Vox amp.

Paul.

[john44]

Hi Charlie
Just noticed on my member file gender is female I must have entered by misyakeas I am definitly male how do I fix
cheers john44

[bill]

Hi John,
You can change your 'gender' setting by clicking on 'profile' in the horizontal menu near the top of the home page, after you've logged in. Then 'modify profile' and change the gender setting in the drop down list of two options.

[john44]

Hi George
Thanks for your advice thats a very simple sex change operation thanks mate
john44