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Post by sheendigs on Jun 15, 2009 18:07:23 GMT
Hi There ;D
I have found these tuners by Wilkinson.
It seems to be interesting since there are two holes drilled in the shaft.
So one passes the string in the top hole, then execute one turn around around the shaft and pass it in the second hole.
So it seems to be locking really good...
Has anyone used one of those??
I think this is the solution to the string being in-tune forever..
Sheendigs
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Post by Charlie Hall on Jun 15, 2009 18:21:41 GMT
Hi Sheendigs,
They could be very good for tuning stability. However, I'm not so sure that alone is sufficient to ensure accurate tuning at all times.
When strings are cold (often the case at the beginning of a gig when guitar tunings are checked) the pitch tends to be sharp so obviously this can only be compensated for by rechecking the tuning later on when things have warmed up. I have even noticed string pitch going flat after cleaning them, then to find that as they cool down, they return to the original pitch prior to the cleaning.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by gorgeousgeorge on Jun 15, 2009 19:38:54 GMT
I have them on a "Vintage " brand strat copy and they work as well (or bad) as the Spurzels I have on my other guitars.The trick of course is to leave as little string wound on the post as possible so pull the string well through that first hole.With the thinner strings after the second hole you can even twist the end back under the bit which goes from the first to second hole thus locking the string onto itself once tension is brought up.
May be a new mousetrap or is it an old solution re-hashed?
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Post by peterbower on Jun 17, 2009 22:28:46 GMT
Although as Charlie has said before, its important to fit and wind the string on the tuning post correctly, most pitch stability problems are simply down to temperature changes.
Having locking tuners does not stop this.
Peter
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Post by George Lewis on Jun 18, 2009 21:28:08 GMT
Hi Sheendigs,
I have them and for the price they are excellent. I have never had a problem with tuning stability so can't comment there but they make changing strings a lot easier, although bending the string around to get in the other hole and pulling tight is a bit of a fiddle. Also because the bend is so sharp you better not want to temporarily remove them and reuse.
The best and simplest locking tuners I have are Grover mini rotomatics. They have an ingenious method and look like ordinary tuners, but just put the string through the hole, start winding and they lock automatically, no knurled knobs. Great little tuners for quick and simple string changes.
Regards
George
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Post by peterbower on Jun 18, 2009 22:27:03 GMT
Hi George
Agree on the Grovers, the Kluson vintage lockers and the Gotoh are the same. Put the string through the hole and turn the key. The string gets clamped after a couple of turns and no screw knobs underneath to clamp first. I do like my Sperztsels [sorry about the spelling] on my Eggle LA Classic though.
Peter
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2009 13:35:28 GMT
HI ALL I have the exy-lok wilkinson's on my rebuilt squire & the reason I bought them was the ''ratio'' as the crappy originals felt like they would strip as they were a much higher ratio ,I did use the 2x holes at first but now only use the one hole the lowest one,,,I find them very good & at a reasonable price they are the same construction as my us-strat ones with the firm nut to clamp to the head-stock as well as screw's...
Using 12-52's they needed to be strong & they are!!!!! & light to adjust etc etc ...
cheer's.............barry..
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