Hi Charlie, I was trying to make The Edges setting for Pride, I used modern delay, head 6 at 419ms what I read it was. It sounded close, and I thought it must have been my playing why it wasn't quite right, then I discovered the feed back was at -12db, a bit too much, I wound it back to -3 what you had on one of the other Edge delay settings, and it sounded much better, is that what you reckon would be right? Thank You Matthew
Hi Matt, Just as a matter of interest, the Level settings in the editing fields of the H&C are attenuation, and have negative dB values. A setting of 0dB is the highest level you can have, and a setting of -3dB is 3db lower than the maximum, and -12dB will be attenuating the signal another 9dB. So that when you changed the head 6 feedback from -12dB to -3dB, you have actually INCREASED the amount of feedback signal from that head by 9dB. Hope that makes sense I assume it is patch 63 that you have been working on. If so, you will have increased the level of Head 6 feedback to the same as that of Head 5. If it sounds good, stick with it, I reckon! Cheers, John
Using guidance from a well known guitar lesson DVD about U2 songs, I use 2 delays: The first one is at 418ms, with about 4 repeats audible, and a second delay at 570ms (about 3-4 repeats audible). The chiming chords section will need something like an Octoverb/Verbzilla to achieve the correct sound.
Hi Matthew, I have looked into it for you. Use patch P64 as a base, change the 450ms delay to 418ms, and change the 600ms delay to 557.3ms. Only change the delays I have specified and you can leave the other 4 alone. If you like the settings and want to keep them, save the patch to a location in the User Bank and rename it PRIDE in the lower row. I think you might want some kind of chorus effect in addition but you will know if the delays sound right without a chorus effect. Please let me know how it sounds as I'm not able to check it audibly for you at this time. Regards, Charlie
Yes, the iconic Slim Dusty - Australian country music doesn't get any more "Aussie" than that, mate ............ that song was quite a big hit for him too. Still love his "Pub with no Beer" classic. Cheers and Merry Christmas, John
Hi Matthew, Sometimes I hear things that others miss. Anyway, I think I may have missed a setting. There is probably also a 150ms delay that should be changed to 139.3ms. It is difficult to remember how some patches are programmed without the unit in front of me! Regards, Charlie
Hi Matthew, That's good. I think I should have also specified a precise setting for the 418ms setting. The idea is to scale the 150ms, 450ms and 600ms delay times from the original patch U64 to exact 1/4, 3/4, and 1/1 ratios. Regards, Charlie
Having looked at this again I now suggest using these settings as they are exact proportions of the factors mentioned earlier: 150ms change to 139.3ms 450ms change to 417.9ms 600ms change to 557.2ms I will try these settings later and confirm that they work (or not)! Regards, Charlie
OK, I have tried the settings in my unit. There isn't a 600ms setting that needs changing (I told you I couldn't remember how I had programmed it!) so it is just H1 to change from 150ms to 139.3ms, and H6 to change from 450ms to 417.9ms. Changing those gives the sound I expected for Pride. Regards, Charlie
I have been following this with interest and I reckon this is bang on. For me the missing ingredient was the 139.3ms head. I was using 418ms alone which I have now changed. Must admit my old ears don't notice the 0.1ms difference I'd be amazed if they did.
Hi Tim, Thanks for your feedback. The reason for changing 418 to 417.9 is because 417.9 is exactly 3 x 139.3. I didn't actually test to hear if there was any difference. If there is, a slight phasing sound might be heard on regenerations with the 418 setting. Regards, Charlie