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Post by rockinscott on Dec 26, 2020 8:15:46 GMT
Hi everyone,
Hope you all had a good Xmas. I finally became an owner of a H&C echo yesterday thanks to my fiancee (and also thanks to her I didn't get as much time with it as I would have liked 😂).
I'm not going to say anything new here but, Charlie and John (RIP) you have done an amazing job. After listening to the many demos and soundfiles I knew it was going to be good. It exceeded what I was expecting, firstly the the weight, its built like a tank, I knew it would be quality but wow, theres no stopping this baby. I just cant wait to get the Vox up and running to have a run through.
Scott
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 26, 2020 14:50:36 GMT
Hi Scott, Thanks for posting your initial experience. I will welcome any further posts after you have given it the first test tun with the Vox. Regards, Charlie
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Post by rockinscott on Dec 26, 2020 19:09:42 GMT
Hi Charlie,
I've run it through my blues jr, yesterday day and was really impressed, I flattened the eq as much as possible on the amp this afternoon and and stuck a joyo ac tone in front of the amp which helped alot.
We all know you've had the head times down pat from day dot. But what has really struck me, more so today as I had a good 1 1/2 hours with the unit, is the dynamic response of the echoes, I've not heard on any other unit I've used (from the zoom 508, rfx, quad gt(that I still have) q2. Q20 and magic stomp). Its much more organic like my Ese, I know we mentioned in another post about being able to drive the echoes and using that to get growl and bark out of them. I played Shadoogie and The Savage several times and couldnt stop smiling.
And I feel the echo for Apache is finally right, I'm not sure what it was on the previous programmed units but there was something I couldnt put my finger on it. I can "feel" what I'm doing with the echoes now if you know what I mean.
Absolutely outstanding work by you and John.
Thanks
Scotth
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 26, 2020 22:34:28 GMT
Hi Scott, Thank you again for your further report. I am pleased you mentioned the dynamic response, which is due to the emulation of magnetic material saturation ie. tape on most vintage echo units. Other users have also noticed what sounds like some compression even on the dry signal although compression isn't something we added in, it is simply a by-product of the valve emulation that is included. We also modelled the head characteristics which allows true representation of the way the heads interact with the main echo output and also the feedback/regeneration. This is most likely what you noticed with the Apache echo, although the emulations are true for all the vintage echo units we modelled. Wow and flutter is also far more accurate than what went before. Regards, Charlie
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Post by rockinscott on Dec 27, 2020 1:10:59 GMT
Hi Charlie,
I followed all the discussions from the beginning of the mystery echo box until the release of the unit in 2015, I really appreciate all the knowledge and work you and John put in to this which is why I'm so please to finally have one in my possession. As fantastic as it sounds in the hundreds of files you can really really hear all the nuances when it's right in front of you. All the emulations sound wonderful, I really like the model J emulations playing over some Cliff stuff this afternoon, it sounded awesome. I like many others could sit here all nice praising your and John's work. Bravo.
Scott
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Post by Charlie Hall on Dec 27, 2020 21:33:28 GMT
Hi Scott, Oh yes, the Model J. I use patch P09 a lot when I want a reverb kind of sound, and it works for many Ventures tunes too. Regards, Charlie
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