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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 21:23:09 GMT
HI ALL, WOULD MY SQUIER CV 60'S STRAT BENEFIT FROM A SET OF IRONSTONE GOLD VINTAGE PICKUPS OR TONERIDERS OVER THE ORIGINALS FITTED. ANY THOUGHTS APPRECIATED. THANKS PHIL
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Post by gusstrat on Apr 16, 2021 7:31:27 GMT
Hi Phil,
I purchased those pickups quite a while ago and installed them but was not real impressed.
Regards, Garry.
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Post by derekdelboy on Apr 16, 2021 8:11:38 GMT
Hi Phil
I bought Ironstone Gold Pups and fitted them a few months ago to my CV50 ... I thought them pretty good , certainly better than the stocks.
Tricky to advise .
Derek
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 14:54:05 GMT
Thanks for the replies ive changed the thread adding tonerider pickups as well any thoughts on those thanks phil
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 15:17:20 GMT
Pickups?....so much choice these days.....I’ve had stock Fender, Fender Noiseless, EMG active SA, Mighty Mite Vintage, G&L Alnico V USA, Kinmans, and I finally settled on the Joe Barden Classic S Strat Set..........not cheap, around £400 From Hotrox....but the best I’ve ever had or heard.
Twin blade dual coil humbucker in a single coil size unit.......remember Kinman are stacked humbuckers.......no comparison tone wise with the conventional concept of a humbucker.....ie Gibson etc.........the very short distance between the blades means there is top end aplenty, and excellent body....and no hum.........
Not everyone’s choice appearance wise I admit.......but sound wise they are the best......
Cheers, Paul....
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Post by Stu's Dad on Apr 16, 2021 20:16:12 GMT
The stock pickups in my CV 50s are Tonerider Surfaris and are far superior to Ironstone Gold. I know because I tried a set. I don't know what's in the CV 60s but I would assume they're not rubbish. I'd think very carefully before replacing them if I were you Phil. If you want the vintage Hank tone you could do much worse than the Toneriders.
Len
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 21:12:12 GMT
Thanks Len appreciate your reply regards phil
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Post by frankmarvin on Apr 27, 2021 22:04:50 GMT
For the money. Ironstone golds are superb, they improved a Mexican Strat of mine quite a bit , I also have a USA Strat special with standard pickups and , being strung identically, there is barely any difference, .
regards
Frank.
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Post by Stu's Dad on Apr 28, 2021 21:33:56 GMT
Perhaps I should have been a little clearer in my post. Ironstone pickups are very good and would undoubtedly improve many guitars, but Squier Classic Vibe guitars are all fitted with good quality pickups, and Tonerider Surfaris cost twice the price of Ironstones and it shows.
Len
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Post by rogerbayliss on Apr 29, 2021 12:15:30 GMT
I have had Tonerider Vintage and Surfaris and they are great pickups.
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Post by andyj47 on Apr 29, 2021 14:01:03 GMT
hi everyone, could someone explain to me how these pickups are "better " than the ones fender put in a strat.a pickup is a fairly simple idea,how it works,i cant get my head round the idea of buying a fender ,then changing the pickups.i know a lot of you guys are into this stuff more than me, but im interested why.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Apr 29, 2021 19:09:51 GMT
I believe the structures and type of magnets plays a great part. As for better, this can only be evaluated by how they sound, and I suppose everyone has their own idea of how a particular guitar should sound through their own system.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by rogerbayliss on Apr 30, 2021 15:24:28 GMT
Sometimes certain pickups suit a certain guitar.
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Post by Roger... on May 9, 2021 11:23:00 GMT
Hi Phil,
I have Tonerider Pure Vintage on two out of my three Strats. The only reason they are not in my third Strat is because it is all original 1979 in mint condition and wish to keep it that way. I have tried Fender Fat 50s and also Ironstone Vintage Gold (which are also very good). I settled for the Toneriders because of their sound and their superior quality standard to all the others. They also have a pole height correction to allow for a plain 3rd string.
Please bear in mind that the sound from any pickups will be heavily influenced by the equipment that you plug the guitar into (echo unit, amplifier, etc.).
Good luck.
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Post by beebs on May 9, 2021 15:38:56 GMT
I've seen debates on what stock pickups come with the 50's CV. Some people tend to believe they are in fact toneriders. I have a 50's CV. Faultlessly built guitar. Pups are what I think of an OK, not that flash.
Maybe stick in a CS54 in bridge helps.
Bob
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Post by Stu's Dad on May 10, 2021 10:55:07 GMT
I've seen debates on what stock pickups come with the 50's CV. Some people tend to believe they are in fact toneriders. I have a 50's CV. Faultlessly built guitar. Pups are what I think of an OK, not that flash. Maybe stick in a CS54 in bridge helps. Bob I argued this point with a member (whos since passed away) on another forum Bob. I'd had mine out when I tried Ironstones, and they were labelled Fender on the bottom. He said that Tonerider made a lot of pickups for guitar manufacturers, and that Fender had put the stickers on when they bought them in. I still wasn't convinced so I looked on the Tonerider website, and found that my pickups were identical in all specs to the Tonerider Surfaris, so I think he was probably right. I'm convinced anyway. As a matter of interest the bridge pickup's my favourite - different strokes for different folks I suppose. Len |
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Post by glyderslead on May 10, 2021 17:26:36 GMT
I have a set of Ironstone Golds on one of my Bitsa' Strat's and think they sound very good....though not as loud as the pick ups on some of my other Strats. Might just be that they are set a tad lower to the body. The proprietor at Ironstone installed them on a scratch plate for me and installed a micro switch that allowed for various switching options including parallel / series, parallel and series together and also a blend pot for neck and bridge........all for a very reasonable price. I now have an array of subtly different sounds to choose from. The Ironstone people are pleasant to talk to and deal with.
Thanks to this thread, when lock down is out of the way I now have it in mind to take a bunch of Strats with me to a hall and compare their sounds.
Cheers
Mick
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Post by beebs on May 11, 2021 15:26:15 GMT
I currently am using the Custom Shop CS54 in the bridge of my early Korean Squier Bullet and it is probably the 2nd best I've tried. Coming in 1st for me, if you can find them, are the original pups from that Korean Squier. I read somewhere that the pickups and parts for those early Squiers were from surplus Fender Mustang parts in Japan that Korea imported in to make their bullets.
Here's the thing as well for me. I once had quite a few strats and decided one day to put the same neck on several different bodies so I could choose the best body sound, thinking hey I'll hear this audible difference in all these different bodies. What I discovered was I could actually recognize the unique sound of the neck, not the bodies. So the neck, frets and bridge have a lot to do with the final sound coming through the pickup choice.
Bob
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