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Post by rogerkay on Mar 16, 2011 12:44:04 GMT
Hi Roger here
Can anyone out there help me. Did Hank play with a regular sized trem arm or did he use a shortened one? I'm not sure if I have read something about it or thought I had.
Cheers Roger
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Post by Charlie Hall on Mar 16, 2011 13:29:54 GMT
Hi Roger, I think the stock Strat tremolo arms that Hank used were unmodified in the early days. I know he uses shorter arms now, but not sure how long he has used them for. I believe he has experimented with a number of different sizes. Regards, Charlie
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Post by rogerkay on Mar 16, 2011 14:33:23 GMT
Hi Charlie
Thanks for the info. Can you actually purchase shorter trem arms for a strat or do you have to purchase a standard one and then modify it?
Cheers Roger
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Post by John M. on Mar 16, 2011 17:11:17 GMT
you have to trim it with a hacksaw.
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Post by bluelenton on Mar 16, 2011 18:35:09 GMT
Hi Roger, This might do. cgi.the well known auction site.co.uk/DG-short-style-tremolo-arm-fit-Fender-Stratocaster-/170615069371?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item27b9735abb Rgds John
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Post by Erik Feveile on Mar 16, 2011 22:14:36 GMT
Hi Roger,
Please take care that you don't buy one that is too short (just a piece of advice).
Regards, Erik
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Post by neopardyguitars on Mar 19, 2011 7:50:20 GMT
Hallo Roger, I find the shorter trem arms on the well known auction site, (a la D Gilmour style) too short, for intuative use. I have a guitar equipped with a Hank Easy trem , - crank handled to keep the arm out of the way of the palm, that is. This too I find less comfortable than the standard tremelo arm. I use original Fender arms, since they have the best angles for me, but find the need to bend the arm so it is almost parallel with the strings. Heat the arm first, this prevents breaking/cracking, and never do it whilst it is in the trem..... Kind regards, arthur.
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Post by johnyboy on Mar 19, 2011 12:27:44 GMT
find a place on your trem arm you feel happy while your holding and playing then mark it with a marker pen and cut it with the hacksaw then at least its to your required lenth regards john
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Post by abbeyroed on Jun 24, 2012 0:52:59 GMT
Greetings to ALL: Can someone please tell me what trem arm system Hank uses now? Is it available to buy?, and where? Best regards, Ed!!
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Post by boritz on Jun 24, 2012 1:47:50 GMT
...what trem arm system Hank uses now? Is it available to buy?, and where?... Last I knew was: www.easymute.freeserve.co.uk/index.htmlIan was good to deal with when I purchased one in 2010. There are cheaper alternatives but I am happy with mine.
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Post by Jono on Jun 24, 2012 11:30:14 GMT
Hi Roger, This might do. cgi.the well known auction site.co.uk/DG-short-style-tremolo-arm-fit-Fender-Stratocaster-/170615069371?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item27b9735abb Rgds John Hi Roger, Staytrem at the above link is a brilliant chap & will make you a staytrem type arm at any length & height you require for less than £15 approx. He has supplied several members of this forum & is highly recommended by all who has used him. Hope this helps. Jono
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Post by abbeyroed on Jun 24, 2012 15:03:00 GMT
Thanks to ALL for your replys. Ed!!!
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Post by levishadows on Feb 19, 2013 7:06:19 GMT
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Post by abstamaria on Feb 19, 2013 7:29:52 GMT
Hank in the early days used a standard arm, but didn't hold this all the time. As with most players, he let would just reach for it, use it, and let go. A lot of the early pieces don't have the constant vibrato at the end of each note that Hank added in later years. A good example is Apache, to my ears. Since his standard arm was probably afflicted with the same "play" or slackness that we see in the current Fender standard-issue arms, he probably only pushed down most of the time, pulling up only, after taking up the slack, very rarely (as in I think the opening of Man of Mystery). Or so I think. To sound like Hank of the early years (as opposed to Hank in later years), I suppose the easiest would be to use the same equipment (standard arm) and technique (let go the arm). I don't know when he started to hold the arm throughout though. The diligent student would have to shift techniques at that point, too! Regards, Andy
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Post by frankmarvin on Feb 19, 2013 10:29:56 GMT
I bent my own *easy mute* arm , this has the effect of also shortening it : Because the downwards crank also moves the arm further away, when brought up to the use position it was almost vertical, needing a further bend to bring it parallel with the strings: Unlike Arthur I bend mine cold as heating can ruin the chrome and take out the *temper* from the steel: Maybe I have been lucky, but have done this many times and never broken one yet::
Frank:
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Post by frankmarvin on Feb 19, 2013 11:43:28 GMT
Steve, thanks for that, first I heard about it, very interesting: Frank:
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Post by frankmarvin on Feb 19, 2013 12:00:59 GMT
Steve, thanks for those links:
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 19, 2013 12:57:45 GMT
Hi Steve, There is no pic, it says "You are not authorised to view this image!" Presumably you are the only one who can see the pic. Regards, Charlie
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Post by bazmusicman on Feb 19, 2013 15:54:44 GMT
Charlie, I can see the picture.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Feb 19, 2013 16:47:12 GMT
How strange. This is the first time I have known this to happen. OK if everyone else can see it then no problem. Regards, Charlie
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Post by bill on Feb 19, 2013 17:00:11 GMT
Hi all,
No, I can't see it. I see the same as Charlie on my Windows Internet Explorer, Windows 7 laptop.
It is a link to the shadowmusic site; don't you have to be a member of that site?
Bill
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Post by bor64 on Feb 19, 2013 17:07:01 GMT
Can't see it either.....
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Post by marvingers on Feb 20, 2013 0:59:26 GMT
Hi!
I can see it!
Best regards! Lars G. Vinger
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Post by Tone on Feb 20, 2013 11:55:51 GMT
Hi
I had this mod done to my CRS 59 (the Oasis Strat) just after I bought it over three years ago and it's excelllent. I haven't had to make any adjustments to the trem arm at all.
It's not cheap, though. I think I paid about £150 but that included a new short trem arm identical in appearance to the one that came with the guitar.
Cheers.
Tony
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Post by korkyk on Mar 17, 2013 16:21:00 GMT
A note of caution if you plan to use the Easy Mute with a Wilkinson Trem. I bought the 5.5mm push-in version hoping it would fit the Wilkinson WV6 on my Strat body. I had to back the trem block grub-screw right off and then the arm just about fitted. I then tried the same Easy Mute on my other guitar that has a WVP6 trem and found it wouldn't fit at all.
After all that, I don't find any advantage using the Easy Mute as I still have to let go of it to palm mute, especially at the top E. Maybe I need to practice more ;-)
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Post by arnulf on Mar 17, 2013 22:28:30 GMT
Hi! I have the Easymute tremarm on two of my strats, and I am very happy With these trem arms. Ian at the Easymute is very helpful and I can just give the trem arm and Ian my best recommandations. They cost a little, but are absolutely Worth the cost!
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Post by korkyk on Mar 17, 2013 22:41:46 GMT
Hi Arnulf
I've just spent the evening getting more familiar with my Easy Mute and it does seem to get easier with practice. I think the angle of the arm means you have to use a bit more 'effort' to get the same amount of movement compared with the standard arm. I'm using .011 to .052 strings and use 3 springs to float the trem 3.5mm from the body. This means having to use quite a bit of force for anything more than a gentle 'flutter'. Then again, if Hank can do it with ease it just shows up my need for lots more practice.
All the very best
John
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Post by gruntfuttock on Mar 18, 2013 5:03:06 GMT
I would like to recommend John at Staytrem. enquiriesATstaytrem.com (replacing AT with @) He was very helpful and provided me with Staytrem with a shorter arm (to my spec) and the correct thread. Callaham weren't prepared to help because I have a MIJ Strat that might not be 100% standard.
I would also like to recommend Kevin Hurley. enquiriesATstaytrem.com (replacing AT with @) He supplied me with a custom cold steel Trem Block and a shorter trem arm. Both at a much lower cost than Callaham.
I found both guys to be extremely helpful. Dave
Edited by Charlie to disguise email addresses from spammers.
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Post by boritz on Mar 18, 2013 7:35:49 GMT
Just a thought - be aware that Strat trem's can have differing threads (USA are imperial, Mexico (& I think Asian) are metric. ...Easy Mute...wouldn't fit at all...
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Post by Charlie Hall on Mar 18, 2013 10:47:34 GMT
Hi Dave, Please do not post any email addresses on any public forum exactly as they would be written, because they can be picked up automatically for use by spammers. I have edited your post to show how to disguise emails. It should be safer to write them in the usual way in a private message. I also noted that you have written the same email address for two different people/companies, is this correct? Unless Kevin is now connected with Staytrem? Regards, Charlie
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