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Post by calymarvin on Mar 20, 2011 10:48:55 GMT
Hi Everyone !
We had many useful discussions in the past about guitars, pick ups, amps, and guitar effects.
Now time for right plectrum gauge (thin, & medium or thick) for the hank marvin sound.
regards
Calymarvin
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Post by rosemary on Mar 20, 2011 12:05:32 GMT
Hi Calymarvin
I'd be interested to know what plectrums everyone prefers too. My Strats have 10s and my acoustic 11s and I use 1.0mm Dunlop plectrums because I'm scared to try anything thicker in case it breaks the strings (such is my limited knowledge so far) and I didn't like the tone as much with thinner plectrums on the acoustic.
I used to use George Dennis plectrums also 1.0mm but they are very difficult to buy here so switched to Dunlop which I also like.
All the best
Rosemary
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Post by mojolomjl on Mar 20, 2011 13:02:25 GMT
Hi Rosemary/Calymarvin,
First of all I think you would find it very difficult to break a string with any plectrum ( except maybe a metal one)!!! when playing Shadows type instrumentals. IMO it is just a case of trying different guages to see which one suits you.
Regards,
Maurice.
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Post by Charlie Hall on Mar 20, 2011 13:32:14 GMT
I play a custom mix of 9s and 10s which works for my main gigging purposes and I use Dunlop .60mm orange coloured Tortex picks. I have other thicker ones of various types that I sometimes try but still stick with the .60mm Tortex. I never use anything thinner. If I used heavier strings I would use a thicker pick. I have a Dunlop Jazz III and a George Dennis Sharp 1.30 both of which have been/are used by Hank and I don't find them to be best for me, possibly because of my string gauge choice.
Regards,
Charlie
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Post by benitor on Mar 20, 2011 13:36:37 GMT
I use Dunlop .46mm because I like better the attack of the note with thin plectro.
Would be interesting to know what does H.Marvin use, but perhaps it is better that everyone chose what is better for himself.
For strings the best gauge for me are the 11s : IMO they give good tone and are still confortable for bending, with heavier gauges I cannot achive good bending if I play blues.
benitor
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 13:46:20 GMT
Hi, for Shadows "style" instrumentals I use TGI 1.0mm picks. For general work while out gigging I use Dunlop 0.60/0.80 depending on which guitar I am using. I have a Strat set up for 10-46 strings and a Burns Marquee set up for 09-42.
Regards, Graham
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Post by calymarvin on Mar 20, 2011 13:56:24 GMT
Hi guys
While many of you use plectrums of varoius gauges for lead guitar I think for rhythm guitar thin plectrums are easier to play, specially fast rhythms.
Calymarvin
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 21:05:35 GMT
I use a fender Heavy Pick for Shads stuff.
george
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Post by bobtimmins on Mar 21, 2011 17:14:15 GMT
Strings 10-46 and I use Dunlop Big Stubby 3.00 mm and love them, no problems
Wish I'd tried them years ago
Bob T
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Post by salvo on Mar 21, 2011 19:18:53 GMT
Hi,
like Charlie, I use Dunlop .60mm orange coloured Dunlop Tortex picks, and sometime also .50mm red coloured Dunlop Tortex(for soft melodic lines)
recently I'm practicing with Galli thumb-pick(L),I have modified a little...it's good for for country ballads, etc.
Best Regards
Sal
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Post by andystrat on Mar 21, 2011 21:48:27 GMT
I would only ever use 1mm or thicker. You seem to get more balls frome the bottom end tone with a heavier pick and it just means you have to be a little more gentle on the softer notes required. My two pence worth  Andy |
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Post by nivram on Mar 21, 2011 22:52:59 GMT
I tend to use Jim Dunlop .60mm. Colour Grey
This is an interesting thread,
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Post by harley on Mar 21, 2011 23:05:41 GMT
Hi all
I use 3 different gauges of plectrum to achieve different effects. very basically, lighter picks for strumming along, slightly heavier for songs which have both strumming and guitar solos (come up and see me, make me smile is an perfect example) and mainly heavy for instrumentals. id love to use just 1 type and gauge of plectrum but personally i find heavy guage picks to harsh sounding for strumming chords but ideal for most instrumentals
Regards
Ian
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Post by Andy Cook on Mar 26, 2011 19:30:50 GMT
I use Dava picks and find them a good all round pick for lead and rhythm www.jhs.co.uk/dava.htmlI use the blue ones shown at the top of the web site Best regards Andy |
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Post by twang46 on Mar 29, 2011 17:58:54 GMT
I normally use Dunlop nylon picks in varying shades of grey 0.6-0.8
I am getting good results with a Cactus pick (medium) that I got from one of our members so may well switch to them if I can find a supplier.
However I would add that I am yet to find a pick that makes my playing better
Cheers
Dick
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Post by 26rednef on Mar 31, 2011 13:18:09 GMT
Hi.
I make use of Dunlop Jazz III for everything.
I have used and try most on the market from flapping thin to made of stone and found that these Jazz III is what suite me best.
They are small hard and give very good picking control.
The thickness seams to be 1.1 mm when I measure it with a slide caliper.
Kind Regards,
26rednef
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Post by chrishampton1981 on Mar 31, 2011 14:46:57 GMT
Hi guys! I use 0.73mm Dunlop Tortex picks as they feel the most comfortable for me and they give a nice feel when I hit the strings. I use 10-46 Elixir Nanoweb strings on my Strat Kind Regards Chris |
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Post by trickytree on Apr 6, 2011 16:42:45 GMT
Im glad Calymarvin has brought this topic up, Im currently trying various different picks, last night I was using a Gibson medium pick that seems to be ok for me.
As charlie stated earlier Hank seems to use a George Dennis Sharp 1.30, if you look on the final tour dvd you can see him using it.
Ian
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Post by stratoblaster on Apr 6, 2011 19:25:21 GMT
Over the past few Months i have found myself developing a preference for heavier picks. I have tried various thickness's and for some time stuck with the orange Dunlop Tortex ones, but my other problem was i found that the picks would move around in my fingers making me lose concentration on my playing/learning.
I ordered some 1mm (they make various thicknesses) Cactus Grip picks from the States and i find them to be great for me, they have a very grippy area and do not move around in my fingers at all. Dunlop also make a similar pic called Max Grip these are very similar although not quite as grippy.
James
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Post by stratoblaster on Apr 6, 2011 19:57:25 GMT
I normally use Dunlop nylon picks in varying shades of grey 0.6-0.8 I am getting good results with a Cactus pick (medium) that I got from one of our members so may well switch to them if I can find a supplier. However I would add that I am yet to find a pick that makes my playing better Cheers Dick Hi Dick I have a quantity of Med Cactus Grip picks they measure up at 0.75mm if you want some let me know. Regards James |
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Post by andystrat on Apr 6, 2011 21:15:28 GMT
I use 1.0mm as a minimum thickness. Thin plectrums give thin sound in my honest opinion. Sometimes I will also use 1.1mm as this give a thicker tone. Just my opinion I am not a guitarist..... yet Andy |
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Post by garystrat on Apr 14, 2011 15:01:01 GMT
Hi Everyone For well over a year now, I and many of our Shadows Club members have been using the George Dennise 1.30 Sharp Picks, they give very good control and can be used at subtle angles. I also find that a light/relaxed grip with about 4mm of the pick projecting works best for me. The problem is that they can be difficult to get hold of, you could try the following: www.guitarandampshop.co.uk/Regards Gary |
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Post by gitfenburn on Apr 14, 2011 20:09:17 GMT
Hi Gary,
I have used many different plectrums over the years but changed to George Dennis Sharps 1.3 a few years ago after reading somewhere that they were Hank's preference, and find them ideal for Shads numbers.
Glad I purchased a decent supply if as you say they are difficult to obtain.
Regards,
Alan.
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Post by garystrat on Apr 15, 2011 7:59:51 GMT
Hi Alan
The problem is that the stores have to purchase in volume and although I bought enough to cover most of our club members as well, they still had quite a few in stock over a period.
The problem now is getting someone to replenish those stocks, its the old story that people will tend to buy from stock, so if they have none the retailer doesn't perceive a demand.
Gary
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Post by martyn on May 17, 2011 22:47:08 GMT
I use 1.0mm as a minimum thickness. Thin plectrums give thin sound in my honest opinion. Sometimes I will also use 1.1mm as this give a thicker tone. Andy I agree with Andy - thinner picks do create a thinner tone so it's a case of trying an assortment of types until you create the thinness or thickness of tone you seek. Not sure of the actual thicknesses of my picks but many months back Guitar (I think - the lettering on the picks have faded) magazine included a pack of three marbled plastic picks with an issue - these were stuck to the front cover. Red, green and blue (very pretty  ) and I have two remaining - one quite thick and very round/smooth edged (red) that creates more mellow tones, and a slightly thinner (green) one that I use for everything else when solo playing. I suppose you'd describe it as a medium thickness.  The very thin blue one's disappeared somewhere but I didn't use it anyway. I also have a larger equi-sided triangular thin one (about the same as the green one) that's great for strumming chords using it side-on and brushing across the strings for a very gentle rhythm sound rather than in a picking action. Most times, for playing chords in any rhythm guitar duties, I strum using my finger nails - no pick used for this. In another thread someone suggested using emery to roughen the edge of a pick, the idea being to create a harsher rasp to the struck note if that was what one wanted. This rough scraping effect is quite audible and amplified further by the chosen echo unit, its harsher repeats adding something to the overall effect. I haven't found the need to do this but when playing Shadoogie, for example, for the palm muted parts I strike the strings with the pick at an acute angle, essentially scraping it across the strings, which produces a similar rasp and more trebly attack to the notes. This initial bite or attack is transmitted by the echo and does make for a more Meazzi'ish choking echo in my opinion. Cheers, Martyn |
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Post by bor64 on Jul 9, 2011 21:57:36 GMT
I use Dunlop Tortex M3 (the green ones).
Hank used those before he switched to George Dennis picks.
Last time we met, we exchanged a few plectrums...he did smile when he tried the Tortex pick's and said they sound better and pick better...but they are slippery...that's why i don't use them anymore.
I told him that i don't use George Dennis pick's because they wearing off to fast and loose the edge easily...and I told Hank IMHO that he "suffer" the same because he is constantly grabbing a new pick from his trouser pocket and inspecting the edge...
He smiled again and said yes indeed, but i use sometimes some who i file down to have the edge reshaped.....
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Post by Roger... on Jul 12, 2011 6:38:25 GMT
A good thread for me this. I use a cut down Stagg Ruby 0.6mm (orange). In the early 60's I used a Gibson 1.00mm 'teardrop' tortoiseshell. I still have it and use it as a template. It is a lot smaller than the ones sold nowadays. I simply place it on top of my Stagg, draw around it with a sharp permanent marker pen, cut it out with the scissors, and sand the edges smooth. It works for me, I have several of them.
I cannot use the larger ones that are currently marketed nowadays. Also I always hold my plectrum between my thumb and my 'second' finger. Strange eh! More comfy and natural for me.....
Kind regards
Roger
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) and I have two remaining - one quite thick and very round/smooth edged (red) that creates more mellow tones, and a slightly thinner (green) one that I use for everything else when solo playing. I suppose you'd describe it as a medium thickness. 
