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Post by shawbridge on Jun 11, 2011 19:20:58 GMT
hi Guy's, I'm intrigued, at the get together there were a lot of strats with all manner of pickups, my guitar was a 1978 USA maple neck. I was bowled over by the amount of people that came to me to ask what pickups i had on the guitar, i hadn't really tokk much notice before, they are standard fender pickups that came fitted. I had concidered the likes of kinman and fat 50s but now i'm not really sure what to do as the soung i had apparently sounded very good, i don't know. the set-up we had on the saturday was a Pinnacal which had been modified by Charlie and also my vox ac30cc2x, i thought maybe the amplifier made the difference heard but i also used th ac30, magicstomp was used for efects. charlie made an interesting comment as my guitar is lacking most of the paintwork and down to natural wood as seen in the photos, he said did i think it sounded better with most of the paintwork missing and now it's got me thinking perhaps that's the key. has anyone else got any sugetions as to what the difference might have been, as far as i am concerned 2 guitars the same year manufacture and design should sound the same but apparently not in this case.
cheers Peter L
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Post by shawbridge on Jun 10, 2011 0:22:57 GMT
Hi Charlie, please add me also to the list, after trying it out on Sunday what else can one do :-) hope you get well soon.
Peter
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Post by shawbridge on Jun 7, 2011 10:17:10 GMT
Hi Guy's, i can only echo :-) what Amanda has said, you could not tell the difference in my opinion between the miazzi and charlie's magic box, very diffiult to tell indeed. I used a standard 78 USA strat and amanda's 62 AC15 with frightened city, the acuracy of the tone, bite and echo effect was staggering, i have heard them all including the TVS 3 but the raw vintage sound was there to behold. To say more, Geof tried the Savage through it and the finishing notes tailed off into the dictance as it should as per original shad's recording as it should, very impressive unit we could go on and on........ I guess the real beuty of this machine is that you can have the Miazzi vintage echo + the more modern shad's sounds all in one unit, I wonder what Hank would think of it :-)
cheers Peter
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Post by shawbridge on May 1, 2011 20:51:30 GMT
tony, Nothing better than an outside gig you just feel up for it and the excuse to let rip so to speak, I've done places like Aintree, Dudley castle etc superb especially D castle using the stone wall lit up as a backdrop. cheers Pete Leyland. (shawbridge)
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Post by shawbridge on May 21, 2010 15:40:03 GMT
26 Rednef, Hank may have moved away from the pickup settings of the early days but baring in mind that may not be the case in the studio which is were most of what we are trying to replicate took place. cheers
Peter
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Post by shawbridge on May 19, 2010 14:33:58 GMT
Hi use the SM57 every week a very good amp mich but it appears there is more too it than first thought, i guess i will have to look at a dedicated preamp.
cheers Peter
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Post by shawbridge on May 19, 2010 10:53:36 GMT
Hi Guys, Firstly can i say that having recently acquired a Zoom G2 and the purchase of Charlie's EFTP i am more than happy with it and find it far superior to anything i have used in the past.
I am using the Zoom with a Vox ac30 and USA 1978 Fender Stratocaster, i will be posting up some tunes once i have worked out how, however what bothers me is if i use the unit direct into the computer i will loose the sound quality that the Vox generates and therefore won't get a true representation of sound i suppose a bit like Di..ing a guitar on stage.
What advise would someone give to using some form of microphone, if so what type?
many thanks
Peter
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Post by shawbridge on May 17, 2010 8:52:17 GMT
A very good rendition there and the guitar sound almost spot on but as someone has said it is missing the reverb to throw out the sound as on the origininal,whiuch is more noticable on the damping parts. The original appears to throw the sound out were in your version it sounds like it is enclosed if you get my meaning but very well done none the less. cheers Peter
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Post by shawbridge on May 3, 2010 12:45:41 GMT
Hi Guy's, I myself have come to the conclusion that it is probably impossible to get the exact sound i have neither an AC15, or AC30/4,Meazzi, pre CBS strat not to mention the studio mix itself.
But i guess with patience we can get near to. That was a nice rendition of sleepwalk.
cheers
Peter
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Post by shawbridge on May 2, 2010 18:48:33 GMT
Hi Ritchi, I agree with charlie on this, i have watched Hank in close proximity and i have to say i can't remember an ocasion were he has used any other pickup than the bridge one but in the studio is another matter i have heard it said that he uses the bridge pickup for live performances as it carries the sound better. On the original recording it sounds contradictive as it sounds in parts like the neck pickup and also the bridge pickup, i personally use the middle pickup and adjust the eq acordingly.
cheers
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 26, 2010 12:49:29 GMT
A good way of finding the feedback spot was before the gig in soundcheck and once found get someone to put gaffer tape in a square around you. Then when it comes to the gig stand in the spot which is a boon when wanting to hold that note on Parisiene walkways, i guess it is old hat really but it works and keeps the stage presentation tidy.
cheers
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 24, 2010 17:19:56 GMT
Hi Strat790 In my opinion the Mexican strat is incredible value for money, you get a lot of guitar for the price. My own findings with live performance both on Mexican and USA the USA has had more of a fuller sound with better sustain /feedback eg on Gary Moor type numbers were the mexican had a thinner sound and lacked body. This is only my opinion of course but i have found also that the Mexican strat can sometimes be muddy on some sounds were the USA strat tends to be more defimed. Don't let this put you off, the Mexican strat is a good guitar and can cope with most strat type numbers after all it really does sound like a strat probs best on country type sounds. cheers
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 24, 2010 7:58:36 GMT
Hi Guys, Unfortunatley i don't own a volume pedal but i promissed myself one years ago when the shads album Rocking with curley leads was released, i thought i have to have one of those. how i got by waas by using what was known back then as Pinki, were you hit the string and with your little finger introduce the volume knob on the guitar and with practice it wrks a dream, i wonder how many of you use this method?
cheers
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 24, 2010 0:25:26 GMT
Hi charlie, The paint started to come off at the back were the buckle of a belt stated to were away the paintwork and to cut a long story short i peeled away the paintwork with a heavy Gibson plectrum from th back and onto the front leaving to my amazement the laquer ovr the wod surface. the paint that still remains is there because it appears fixed to the body and doesn't pick away so easy so i left it. here are a coupl of photos showing the rear and front. cheers
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 23, 2010 13:35:14 GMT
Hi there, I have allways wondered what a standard strat was having seen so many different strats owned by others and have them tell me they are standard but sound and feel different to mine, here below is a picture of my 78 strat now classed as vintage. the guitar cost £420 in 1978 and i'm told it is standard but also told it has a good biteing sound when compared to other standard strats, why is this so. Excuse the ugly mush was in full shads mode. the guitar was originaly dark sunburst and still is on the back. cheers
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 14, 2010 15:44:06 GMT
Hi Spike, Its amazing how many people still use the ME5, i had the later ME6 but no comparison on the ME5 and what was strage was thatr there was no midi on the later ME6, so went back to the ME5. Like yourself funds tend to get swallowed up, i thought that once the kids grew up and left home i would have pots of money to throw around twas just a pipedream.
I will of course end up with one of the Elisis verbs of some sort soon, once i set my mind on summut it usually comes off, thats no reference to the wife and what clothes she has got on lol.
Hi Charlie, Yes, very dissapointing that i can't add reverb seperatley as it is on the same patch pedal as the delay, i can add any other effect barr the reverb, not had chance yet to try the reverb on the Vox, it will be interesting to see how it sounds.
cheers
Peter
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 14, 2010 13:16:35 GMT
Hi there, my first tune was ( ALL DAY ) hitting one string with the open B string and first rythm was Dance On then upgraded to Apache.
Peter
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 14, 2010 9:01:06 GMT
Hi Charlie, The mode facility on the ME5 is
1-5Rev
6 Delay,
which sugests i can have either reverb or the delay on setting 6, i can of course set the reverb on the AC30 which i will try to sort out today and let you know my findings, i am currently using a VOX CC2X after parting with a Fender Twin.
cheers
Peter
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 13, 2010 13:10:20 GMT
Hi Charlie, I have set it to 36ms and has improved the sound, i had it set on 28 but was never quite right i know it is still a compromise against the likes of the Q2and 20 but a reasonable sound. I had stuck with the Me5 after all these years because of the excellent compressor, my friend Norman Barratt of Gravy Train and Barratt band fame who toured with Cliff i think in the 80s has always used the Me5 for live gigs instead of the new at the time VG8 just because the compressor was that good,i guess i'm old fahion lol.
many thanks for your help
Peter x Barratt band.
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 13, 2010 8:27:36 GMT
Hi Charlie, Thanks very much for your reply, i had a look at the delay options on the unit and although very good quality i can not have 2 delays at once. The setting options are Time 0.1-50(x10ms
Delay F.B. (0-7 )
Tone (0-7 ) FLAT =7
Effect level ( 0-70 ).
cheers
Peter
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Post by shawbridge on Apr 12, 2010 20:42:07 GMT
Hi Everyone and very nice it is to come aboard the forum as a new member. I hope you don't mind me asking a question, at the moment i am using a Boss Me5 multieffect unit for my shadows rutine, years ago i used the WEM Copycat which was better.
To get to the question: is there anything that can be done to an ME5 that can improve its performance with the echoe facility?
my intention is to buy a Q2 or Q20 once funds become available and like most shadows fans allways looking for that sound.
I do get a reasonable sound that gets me by as only recently returning to Shadows music after years of caberet and rock music in both session work and bands etc.
Many thanks for your help.
Peter A L.
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